Fake Hindu swamis, sanyasis, babas, gurus and godmen thrive in a society which lacks awareness about the true essence of Hindu spirituality. Therefore Hindus and other sections of the society which provide the opportunity and fertile ground for fraudsters to thrive in the name of Hinduism are equally at fault. No fake swami can survive without ignorant and fortune-seeking followers.
The Bhagavad Gita which narrates the essence of Hindu spirituality contains only 700 verses. There are excellent translation and commentary of Bhagavad Gita which cost less than 100 rupees. But majority of the Hindus have no time to read the 700 verses but spend money, energy and time visiting ashrams and spiritual centers of such fake babas and gurus.
If you make this an issue, immediately comes the answer, Bhagavad Gita is hard to digest for common people like us, we are ignorant. It is for the common people that the learned men of yesteryears have translated the Gita into all regional languages. They have provided excellent translations and have interpreted the great dialogue between Arjuna and
Is not understanding Gita the real issue? NO
The real issue is that Gita doesn’t talk about methods to become super rich overnight. Neither do Gita have mantras to find treasures hidden underground or to get promotions or provide miracle cure to diseases. Gita also does not recommend pujas to destroy your enemies. And above all Gita does not predict the future.
But the fake swamis and godmen only talk about future, money and predictions, pujas and innumerable homams to cure diseases where medical science has failed. Sadly, this is what many Hindus want to hear.
Daily we get to hear about such fake swamis and their notorious activities – which include rape, amassing wealth through dishonorable means – but this has not deterred many Hindus from approaching fraudsters. But, why?
Both the fake Godmen and his followers are fortune seekers. Godmen is using religion to become rich and conduct other antisocial activities. Followers are fortune seekers who want the help of an outside agency to reach God and bribe God and amass wealth and know future.
Shri Krishna never fought for Arjuna. Arjuna had to do all the fighting in Kurukshetra. The ultimate truth that we have to do our work and no God will come to do it is not still acceptable to many.
A true Sanyasi will never advertise. He/She is like a flower. People reach them following the fragrance. They will not even bother to talk to fortune-seekers. Silence is there best weapon which frustrate most fortune seekers in minutes. They might open up the knowledge treasure to a genuine seeker whom a true Sanyasi will easily identify – just like Ramakrishna identified Vivekananda.
No Sanyasi or Godmen has said anything new that is not found in the Upanishads, Gita, Ramayana, Yoga Vasishta and Mahabharata. All these texts are readily available in the market. Pick any of these Holy Scriptures and read a few pages daily. Soon we will realize the futility of going to such fake gurus.
Hinduism believes in individual self realization and not borrowed or rented or bought self realization. Always remember the Brahman that resides in the most respected guru or spiritual leader also resides in us. The only difference is that we have not bothered to realize it.
If we are falling into the trap of fake Sanyasis and Godmen, it is our fault. And if you find that a swami is fake, never hesitate to report it to the authorities. Such fake swamis and Godmen should not find protection in Hindu religion.
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23 comments:
The document is good for people who go to Hindu sanyasis and struggle to understand whether they are true or fake.. How about adding the lists of fake gurus/sanyasis in the BLOG for others to know at first hand information??
Ha. You're missing the point. You must detect YOURSELF rather some is true or a faker. Asking someone else's opinion is just giving away your own inner power one more time.
So many of the "godmen" just love to slide their hands (and other body parts) all over nearby females when they are along and think no one is looking...
I could tell you many tales - even from the Kumbha Mela in Ujjain... so many are just dirty old men in private.
You will find God in your OWN heart... all by yourself. For free.
yeah i agree but thats doesnt mean that all are fakes many true and good saints are there... wherz good therz bad to
in otherwords we should beware of those dirty missionaries who plans to spoil our great hindus saints name,because of these saints their crap work of convertion doesnt work
Very true. I agree.
We all are emotional by heart and we all are some way or other surrounded by some or other problem.
These fake people(I do not want to use the word sadhu for fake person) psychologically cheat us and Our fault is that we blindly listen to them without using our mind.
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Hi Friends,
Thanks for nice views.
The real reason i think for going to so called fake people is to avoid thinking and putting efforts in disciplining oneself for quicker gains and get cheated in processes & coming out as bitter not better person at end of transaction with so called fake persons not sadhus, correctly put by one of friend above.
Its not the fake people who are solely resposible for ourself being cheated but our own desire to get benefits instantly without work.
Personally like verse 1 of chapter 6 which describes a true sanyasi(sadhu) which is:
"anshrita karma phala karyam karm karoti yaha,
saha sanyasi cha yogi cha na niragni na cha akriyah"
2 qualities described of sadhu are:
1-engaged in action with an ideal
2-not worried about fruits of action
not one who avoids action , doesnot have fire(agni) or ideal or goal.
So lets be alert with our own wishes of avoiding self effort, thinking for quick gains,to prevent being cheated.
Manoj
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i have studied shastra thoroughly and been very close to many saints and after many years i have come to believe that there really are no such thing as saints or god-people, unless you go very close you will never know and unless you know any "sant" as well as you know yourself we cannot call them sant. grihasthas are more godly any day
One criterion I use is this. How often is money asked for? One guru told me, "Spiritual Wisdom is never for sale."
http://www.aumnamahshivaya.org.in/new1/english/book.html
i was very closely invovled with a very famous spiritual organization and like anything else politically indian it is all about power and corrution, this is kalyug guys stay awat from them
yes many people have had such experience even from reputed organizations but mostly they are all money hungry people who use shasta for their own benefits and how far they have sunk they do not even know
You're right and wrong. So many people seem lost and seek help. So many people dream to become their guide. It's human life.
As far as truth is concerned, it's not a problem. Who are we to say that something or someone bad is really bad. You see, even shit (like manure for eg) has its value and work to do.
Nobody has never been lost. Moksha cannot be attained, otherwise you may be able to loose it, so it will not be moksha, pure infinity without boundaries.
The fish can ponder and ask for advise. The truth is that the fish is the sea. And at the same time it has its own peculiar life to live.
false and true is a dichotomy, its more a problem for abrahamic religions, not asian ones.
All gurus are jerks, fake as long as you consider these being able to bring you to the moon. They can only show (live) the moon.
When you are in truth, you are the truth.
Now concerning this process to become conscious to be conscious. Yes, it exists, but it is only an experience, bound in time and space.
Now if you want to know how it looks like, imagine..
That you jump from an international flight ...without parachute. Or you touch the wires of a high tension pole. or you are on you way to the moon but you are tighten on the outside of the space shuttle.
Nobody wxants to die, nor disappear. Its not a human process. So don't worry about fake or true gurus. They are jokers. That's why saainthood is related to laughter. When you are awakened, there is no separation, no division, no problemo.
Ananda
What is a guru ? A guru is not a man, belonging to a certain fold. A guru can be anything that instructs you. At the difference of abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam), Asian religions are not one size fit all stuff. It’s a private relation between you and God. Life speaks to you in many different ways. It’s up to you to listen and look.
A guru can be a dead leaf, or the sunlight on a rose bud. He can be your annoying neighbor, your irritating mother in-law, a dog, a dog drop, anything. It can be a simple word or a thing or a person that has a connection with, that talks to you, at a certain moment. That’s why you can read all religious books without perceiving anything in them. And surprisingly, read a cookbook and find a real answer for you. That’s the beauty of a creative life.
Man creates his own problems and then cries. There are no problems in life, only a swirl of energy, continuously unfolding, moving. And you cannot solve a problem. There is no solution for a problem. You have to get a new vision in which you drop the problem and adopt a new way that will be your solution.
Man wants to be certain, secure, helped. This denotes his fear and confusion. Man believes he is a poor human being, alone in the universe. Man is full of godliness and in total connection with what is, the manifestation. He is already realized, accepted, dipped in life. The work of a human guru is to dispel his ignorance even if this hurts the follower’s ego. He is there to help him avoid hard stones on the path. A guru is a killer, he has nothing to do with you, (drop that loving image Amma, Sai Baba and Cy, gentle guru stuff from your mind – please, same thing as fake or true guru thing). Nothing to do with money (but what’s wrong with money?) or human desires and vices (but what’s wrong with desires). A guru has his life to live. He goes to bed at night, scratch his ass in the morning, poo, take breakfast, burp, shout or scream, pass urine, etc. He is a normal guy. Why do we want to see him as an alien coming from planet Mars? He has no wings attached to his back and can’t convert rupees into dollars (sorry buddy, choose Euro instead, dollar is a dead donkey).
Ananda
Last two comments from Anonymous are thoughts of wise! Good and evil are two sides of the same coin(Brahman)."To get the real, you must know what is fake"!It is called dance of duality.
Very enlightening thoughts-Ananda-u have become our guru for the minute we took to read your deep comments-will like to discuss more with you-i get the impression though that one spiritual path will not be the same if one does not meet a human guru...
Which is fake which is true None of or buisness. You so ever is takling about God is a step in your life!!. NEVER THINK Topmost step near roof is only Important. keep on steping the fisrt step was equally important. If you have fear of reaching saints just thinking they may not be true Hey man!! How will you become a discoverer. Well God bless you all in your search towards truth. Your own mind is gateway to hell or heaven!!
Dear Friends,
This is the test of genuine sincerity. Those who do not deeply desire God will get what they want. The fake in the name of the Real.
Those who truly desire God never fail to get Him.
So could any of you tell me what Amma and Sai Baba are teaching right or wrong? other words are they real sanyasins or fake?
Dear Sujesh,
If you truly desire to know whether Amma or Sai Baba are real, then look deep into your own heart. Only there can you find God, the Truth.
It really doesn't matter what the objective world says. All that matters is what your divine heart says.
Sacrifice is the key to knowledge and knowing is seeing. What are you willing to sacrifice for this knowledge, Sujesh?
Do not follow the masses blindly because someone says that they are Gods. Find out the truth for yourself.
Look with an unbiased mind, If you are convinced then you can trust them. If these people are for real you will understand or rather feel it. Think rationally and decide. Dont just believe if anybod says anything whether +ve or -ve.
Word "guru" means one who removes the darknes. Darkness abt anything - lyf, god or anything at all.
Yes,it's true that there are fake swamis.But they are many great gurus too.Just because many are fake,one should not distrust all.
The "GURU" or the teacher is regarded highly in hindu religion,even equivalent to GOD.The underlying thought is that it's thru GURU that you know GOD.
Like it's been brought out by the writer of this article("abhilash"),a true GURU never tells us how to get better in material life.But,it's seen that those who follow spiritual practices and are rooted in the self,will be provided more that what they ask materially also.
The Bhagvad Gita and many books of Hinduism is not as simple as it is made out to be.T understand the essence of these books we really need a learned teacher(At least,I feel I am not intelligent enough to understand what these books say,they do create confusion at times,again I may be totally wrong in what I say)
One problem which many of us face is that we keep doubting wether the "GURU" prcaitcies what he preaches.I feel if some one teaches you to do good and if he himself does not follow it,we need not bother.We should do good and not have doubt in the teachings.If a Guru does soemthing wrong,he will have to answer for that.
I Just happened to bump into this blog,find it quite interesting and nice.Thanks
Since Atman is within us all-when we read, study, contempate on what we have read-won't the Atman reveal the right path for us to understand Brahman at whatever level we might be in our present state?
I wanted to see past Maya and so I did for a time give a far away guru money for advice, but as the cost rose I realized this was not the right thing to do- in the old sense of the guru/student role. But I could be mistaken-because the Vedas say we must preform sacrifices and give gifts (among other things.) What is a sacrifice or gift if money isn't involved in this modern day and age?
I have come to understand a false guru as one who would lead us away from knowing there is God within ourselves, and as someone who does not treat his students as if they were already God. The finest example of a true guru was Sri Ramakrishna in my opinion.
Many Hindus today believe that by accepting one (or more!) of the swamis who come to the scene like any advertised commercial service/product, they will be able to ensure, 1) a name in society as a good person irrespective of whether they have an unsavoury past record in this regard, 2) they will be able to ensure a front seat in heaven ( balcony if it is a cinema!) after their death through the Guru's efforts, just as we are able to get many things done in this world by bribing the right person for each thing, and 3) if they have much unaccounted money/wealth, the Guru's ashram will serve as a safe place to hide such wealth and ensure reasonable or even very high returns through stock-market operations regularly done by the ashrams (including the Kanchi mutt, which I know for a fact).
Have any one heard about Swami Dyananda , he was the only person who saved Hindu Dharma and its holyness by providing rear vedas to all indians. In 1850 when there were around 2500 panth in India and so many bad works were going on like sati pratha , bal vivah , no education to girls , jati pratha , chua-chut etc, people were converting to other religion because the dase of Hindu dharm i.e. Vedas were not followed anly some literatures of pandits like puranas were followed and people think the brahman as God . That time swami Dyanand remove all those panth and spread the light of vedas all around and saved Vedic Dharma. For Future he make a institute known as Arya Samaj which works a lot for Hindus. They removes alll the bad rituals from hindu dharma. The first school for girls and lower casts was founded by Swami dyanand only.Every sanyasi give comments on the top of How to get God only , No one care about Human Being. After Swami Dyanada death his followers gave a lot of contribution in country independence , His followers like Lala lajpatrai , Bhagat Singh , Pan Prasad Bismil , Chandersekhar Azad , all were Arya samaji's. This time Graet Yog Guru Swami Ramdev is also a follower of Arya samaj and get his all education from Gurukula's which are run by Arya samaj followers. Before Swami Dyanand no one ( a family person) was aware about Yoga. But He and his followers made it.
This is the biggest contribution of any Sanyasi ever.
Ultimately it all comes back to within us.Fake or not one must be able to use ones judgement ..althugh some donation to upkeep the movement is O.K. Again unless one is on a journey to find -its useless to follow blindly
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