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Book on when was Lord Ram Born?

Lord Ram was born on the noon of January10 in the year 5114 BC. In Hindu calendar, it was the ninth day of Shukla Paksha in Chaitra month. Stunned! Well, this exact date of the birthday of Lord Rama is found in the book ‘Dating the Era of Lord Ram’ by Shri Pushkar Bhatnagar. The exact date was obtained by entering the planetary configuration at the time of the birth of Lord Ram as mentioned in the Valmiki Ramayana in Planetarium Software. Interestingly, for thousands of years Hindus have been celebrating Ram Navmi, the birthday of Lord Ram, exactly on the same time and date.

In the original Sanskrit Ramayana written by Sage Valmiki, while mentioning about the birth of Lord Ram, Valmiki had mentioned the astronomical details of the precise moment. Valmiki himself was present in the palace of Dasaratha and he mentions it thus in Bala Kanda of Ramayana.

On completion of the ritual six seasons have passed by and then in the twelfth month, on the ninth day of chaitra month when the presiding deity of ruling star of the day is Aditi, where the ruling star of day is punarvasu, the asterism is in the ascendant, and when five of the nine planets viz., Sun, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and Venus are at their highest position, when Jupiter with Moon is ascendant in Cancer, and when day is advancing, then Queen Kausalya gave birth to a son with all the divine attributes like lotus-red eyes, lengthy arms, roseate lips, voice like drumbeat, and who took birth to delight the Ikshwaku dynasty, who is adored by all the worlds, and who is the greatly blessed epitome of Vishnu, namely Rama. [1-18-8, 9, 10, 11]

When this data was entered in the Planetarium software, the day was January 10, 5114 BC. But how could Chaitra Shukla Navami occur in January? We celebrate Ram Navami in March or April. The answer to this was found in an article in Organizer.

There is an astronomical phenomenon called ‘precision’ of the sun as also of the equinoxes. According to the latter, the star which is now taken to be the Pole Star (Dhruv Tara), would yield the place to the Star Abhijit (Vega, alpha Lyrae), 14,000 years from now. So when the lunar month of Chaitra occurred seven thousand years ago in the month of January, 7000 years later, it occurs in the month of (generally) April.

Further, Valmiki had mentioned about other planetary configuration. One such was the planetary configuration when King Dashratha decided to make Lord Ram the king of Ayodhya. According to the book, such a planetary configuration was prevailing on January 5, 5089 BC. Lord Ram was then 25 years old and there are indications in the Ramayana that Lord Ram left Ayodhya when he was 25.

The solar eclipse mentioned in the Ramayana work out precisely to the Ramayana period. From an article written in 2003 in the Tribune by Saroj Bala on the book ‘Dating the Era of Lord Ram’

Valmiki Ramayana refers to the solar eclipse at the time of war with Khardushan in latter half of 13th year of Shri Ram’s living in forests. Valmiki has also mentioned that it was Amavasya that day and planet Mars was in the middle. When this data was entered, the computer software indicated that there was a solar eclipse on October 7, 5077 BC (Amavasya day) which could be seen from Panchvati. On that date, the planetary configuration was the same as has been described by Valmiki i.e. Mars was in the middle, on one side were Venus and Mercury and on the other side were Sun and Saturn. On the basis of planetary configurations described in various other chapters, the date on which Ravana was killed works out to December 4, 5076 BC. Shri Ram completed 14 years of exile on January 2, 5075 BC. That day was also Navami of Shukla Paksha in Chaitra month. Thus, Shri Ram had come back to Ayodhya when he was 39 years old (5114-5075).

To understand the book ‘Dating the Era of Lord Ram’ one needs to have some elementary knowledge of astronomy.

When we try to prove the birth of Hindu icons, it must be understood that these Hindu icons rarely bothered about birth and death. Through Sanatana Dharma they teach us to rise above birth and death. It believes that life is a continuity. And therefore it scoffs at the debates like ‘No Ram’ and ‘Yes Ram lived.’

Comments

  1. Abhi,
    Thanks for the wonderful post.

    Giri

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  2. A very interesting post.
    Thanks Abhi.

    I especially thought that the last paragraph was a nice touch.
    I sincerely hope ASI and all concerned agencies do a thorough job of clarifying our history. However, the rest of us should spend less time questioning the historical accuracy of the stories / mythologies and more in understanding the message passed on to us through those.

    Subhash

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  3. thanks for the information.

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  4. I am most happy to read this blog.. It will be referred time and again by me as well as referred to all my friends..

    thanks very much

    Vish

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  5. It is mentioned in Srimad Bhagvatam that Lord Ram was born in Tredha Yug more than 1.7 million years ago. There are several Hindu scriptures subscribing to this age old view. Then the new date of 5114BC is misleading. This prediction based on the plenetary configuration or calculation by the computer, is mere scholarly exercise and only means that certain plenetary configurations occur more than once in the vast history of mankind.
    The age of Ramsethu 'Adams Bridge' as verified by NASA shuttle images is the oldest manmade structure and its estimated age is also around 1.7 million years, which agrees with srimad Bhagvatam. In my humble view further research is needed to arrive at the correct birth date of Lord Ram. Let us not make a mockery of our holy scriptures and continue to distort the religious history of Bharat, just like the Britishers tried to do in their period of rule. We are now a free nation.
    Jai Shri Ram!
    Ravi Rustagi

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  6. As per Ramayana Lord Rama, after the demise of Sita ruled Ayodhya for 13,000 years! Therefore there is some flaw in the assesment. Besides every year we get Rama Navami during March, April or May periods. The new International Calendar, which is based on the Birth of Christ is very inaccurate and full of errors. It is better left these things alone. As far as many people are concerned whether Ram existed or not is irrelevant, to some it is just a myth. Whatever one's belief may be Truth always stands out. Hinduism is not a religion, it is a Dharma. Our Arya Rishis pretty well knew that Kaliyuga is period for Adharma that is why this Sanathan Dharma has been labelled as Religion and other religions are ruling over.
    Religion is based on blind belief, Dharma is based on Truth. This is why Sanathana Dharma can not be extinguished from the World. Because whole universe relies on it.

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  7. This is an appreciable attempt to go in depth of our religious scriptures on scientifically base. The similar occassions must have appeared many times prior to 5114 BC as well. Let us try to further investigate for previous time-frames, which matches to our definition of Yuga i.e. Satyug (17,28,000 lunar years), Tretayug (12,96,000 lunar years), Dwaparyug (8,64,000 lunar years) and Kaliyug (4,32,000 lunar years).

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  8. Why do we have to turn Hinduism into a written-in-stone religion like Islam and Christianity? My favourite part of hinduism is its vagueness. Let us not try to recast our very ORIGINAL belief system into an Abrahamic mould.

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  9. According to one belief, Shri Ram was born in the tretha yug of 24th mahayug. Currently we are in the kali yug of 27th mahayug. So Lord Ram was born 13th yugs ago. So I am skeptical about the date of 5114 B.C. More research is needed to find out the truth.

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  10. Excellent article these fact bring to light that our history is not mythology and the scared science of astrology are able to prove it and Iam particular happy to know all these may bhaghavan bless the writer and please also publish more articles like these on mahabharat and all the other stories related.

    May god bless
    Partha

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  11. thanks for post jai shri Ram

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  12. As per the Shasthras and Puranas we are in the 7th Manvanthara , this manvanthara is called as Vaisvatha Manvanthara(there are 14 manvantharas), in the present manvanthara we are in 27 th chathuryuga(each manvanthara has 71 and odd chathuryuga)
    in the present chathuryuga we are now in Kaliyuga which started 5107 yrs back.
    Shri Ramji was in 24th chaturyuga>treta yuga
    we are in 27th chathuryuga> kaliyuga
    each chathuryuga has 43 lacs 32 thousand years
    i.e 4.3 million years So according to this Shri Ramji lived approximately 11 million years ago.
    Valmiki Ramayana says Shri Ramji ruled Ayodhya for 14 K years

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  13. I too agree with what Nandagopal and Ravi Rustogi have said, as for the Statistics concerned, it is unimaginable to think that Lord Ram was born some 7000 years back.

    I doubt this because, we need to realise that there was DwaparaYuga after the Treta Yuga in which Our Lord Ram was born. KaliYug itself is 1,25,000 years and DwaparaYug is alomost double the length of KaliYug.

    But, I liked the last Paragraph which brings out the real meaning of what Hinduism (a name given by us only) even though it can't be treated like a religion , is all about.

    I believe Hinduism is about the way of living.

    By Krishna Prakash

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  14. Then when was Krishna born? Any calculations?!

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  15. Its better to drop the issue of date of birth of Lord Rama and develop firm Faith in Him. Since nothing can be proved beyond doubt in these kind of issues, its safer to leave it, as further research will only lead to questioning the credibility of the fact of birth of Lord Rama Himself by the non-believers.!

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  16. I DO BELIEVE IN THE WORDS OF Mr Shanmugam

    we have to drop the issue of birthof our LORD RAM AND FOLLOW THE WAY SHOWN BY HIM
    RAMESHA K. C.

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  17. It is realy rare and great book. The reference made by You is good. Birth date of Ram just before 7000 years is absolutly agreeble and matching of the dates with Solar position is too agreeble. However some people adomently not agree even the god ram may appear and said about him. We also makes some confussion about historical years. We say krtha yuga, thuvaraka yuga, etc which are counted in lakhs. that is why we face lot of comments from unagreeable people. It is the response of ours to make correct or proof-Janagan M

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  18. I dont like the term "MYTHOLOGY".Ramayanam, Bhavatam and Mahabharatam are not mythologies.They are not just Myth.It really exists.I want to eliminate this term used for our Indian Ancient History.

    Lavanya
    lavanyalatalingam@yahoo.com

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  19. This is a very nice blog,keep up the good work!Bholenath.

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  20. lol what a funny.. all information is wrong... lord rama birth was not in year 5114 BC ... 5000 olds..that time mahabharat happen means krishna avatar..and rama avatar much before then krisha... the civilisation of human to this earth is lakhs of lakhs yrs old not this stupid 5000 BC AD DC BLAH BLAH format..

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  21. Here is the chronological dates of Mahabharata, which is during Krishnavatar:

    EVENT DATE


    Going to forest 4th Sept. 5574 BC

    Kitmeet Killed 7th Sept. 5574 BC

    Going underground 19th May 5562 BC

    Keechak killed 1st April 5561 BC

    Anukeechak-Massacre 2nd April 5561 BC

    End of secret life 9th April 5561 BC

    Cows stolen 15th April 5561 BC

    Arjuna exposed 16th April 5561 BC

    All pandavas exposed 19th April 5561 BC

    Marriage of Uttara 4th May.
    & Abhimanyu.

    Krishna set out for a treaty. 27th Sept.

    Stay at Upaplavya 27th Sept.

    Stay at Vrukshthala 28th Sept.

    Dinner to Brahmins 29th Sept.

    Entry into Hastinapur 30th Sept.

    Krishna meets Kunti etc. 1st Oct.

    Invited for meeting 2nd Oct.

    First meeting 3rd Oct.

    Second meeting and an attempt 4th Oct.
    to arrest Krishna.

    Third meeting Vishvaroopa 7th Oct.

    Stay at Kunti 8th Oct.

    Krishna meets Karna. War 9th Oct.
    fixed.

    Krishna returns 9th Oct.

    Pandavas preparation 11th Oct.
    Balaram's visit.

    Mahabharat war started 16th Oct.

    Abhimanyu killed 28th Oct. 5561 BC.

    End of War 2nd November 5561 B.C.

    Yudhishthira crowned 16th Nov. 5551 BC.

    Bhishma expired 22nd Dec. 5561 BC

    Pandava campaign 15th Jan. 5560 BC
    for wealth

    Parikshita born 28th Jan. 5560 BC

    Pandavas return 25th Feb. 5560 BC

    Ashvamedh Deeksha. 1st March 5560 BC

    Return of Arjuna Horse 15th Jan. 5560 BC

    Ashvamedh yajna 22nd Feb. 5559 BC

    Dhrutarashtra went to forest 18th Aug. 5545 BC

    Pandavas visited Kunti 18th Aug. 5543 BC
    Vidura expired

    Death of Kunti, Dhrutarashtra, Sept./Oct. 5541 BC
    and Gandhari

    Yadava Massacre 5525 B.C.

    Parikshit Dead 5499 B.C.

    As we all know, Rama was born before Krishna during Tretayuga. So, how is it possible that Rama was born on January 10, 5114 BC?

    Sunil
    Chicago, USA

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  22. Lovely post. I've always wanted this kind of investigation to be done on our scriptures but didn't know how. As some people mentioned in the comments, it is possible that this kind of astronomical combinations occured prior to year 5114 B.C. Maybe more re-search could lead to a more precise answer. Thank you for this post.

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  23. There are several posts here that keep going on about millions of years and this and that. It has been clarified by few illumined sages such as Sri Yukteshwar, guru of Yogananda, that the Yuga dates were highly misinterpreted by the king's courts and scholars.
    It is highly unlikely for the Ram Sethu and other monuments and artifacts from those periods to have survived for millions of years. There is a lot of misinformation going on. There is something called mahayuga and yuga cycles inside that. The maha kaliyuga is millions of years, but inside that again there are the 4 yugas. I personally thought Ramayana was around 10000 BC and Mahabharata around 3000 BC. But the dates presented here also make sense. It is foolish to think that all this happened millions of years ago. The city of Dwarkha was discovered under sea in Gujarat with structures that show the aging of the time periods suggested here.

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  24. This date was chosen on the basis of the occurrence of certain astrological events that have repeated themselves in the past and will continue to repeat themselves in the future. This means that in addition to this given date of 5114 BCE, there are many other prior possible dates for Rama Navami.

    By traditional dating used by orthodox Hindus, the time period given (5000s BCE) is often cited as the dating for the events of the Mahabharata and the life of Lord Krishna, as mentioned in other comments. If traditional dating is accepted, the astrological data used to produce the date of 5114 BCE could still be used to generate dates prior to that time (since Lord Ram came before Lord Krishna) to calculate other possible dates for Rama Navami.

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  25. Ravi Rustogi doesn't know we humans(Homo Sapiens) came to the earth only 200,000 years ago. Does he mean to say Rama was some earlier species of hominids like homo Habilis or Homo Erectus? At 1.7mya,We didn't use to wear anything!!!

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  26. Proud to be a HINDU.
    Very good attempt Abhilash. We have to establish dates and chronology of our ancestor.

    Lord Ram is not an avatar he is a Mahapurush. In Tamil Nadu his presence is felt everywhere. In chennai there is a place called Koyambedu, it is actually Kausalya Medu, Nearby Cooum River(orignially before Muslim Arcot rulers occupied Chennai Cooum was a punya river. In Tamil Cooum means never drying well. These muslim rulers descecarated the river with sewage and then British made it into sewage canal just to insult HINDUS) there is a Shiva temple where Lord Ram performed pooja so the place is called today as Amajikarai but originally it was called Ramar Amardha Karai(Bank where Ram Sat).
    Panjavati, Vaitheeshwar Temple, Srirangam where Ram performed pooja before going to Srilanka.

    Guys all Hindus in India should put our effort and rediscover our past.

    Jai Shri Ram,
    Jai Bharat

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  27. Good Article though calculations may still be incorrect. I have heard from some learned Pandits that the calculations given in our scriptures like Kaliyug for 4,17,000 years is not straight and has to be interpreted differently. According to them, we can not have plain meaning of all these years as they all have some secrets. As per general belief, Lord Krishna came to earth some 5000 years ago. More and more research would help us prove that our scriptures are history and not 'Mythology' - a misnomer given by Western world in an attempt to mock our rich ancient past.

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  28. hmm... you know i might actually believe this.. yes some of you guys are saying rama was born 1.7 million years ago... bt homo sapiens came to life around 200000 years ago... DNA and fossil tells us this... you know u cant keep a blind eye to it and say science is wrong... science is right and well ppl who say nooo when tackled with religion (only religion prevails) im sorrry but scientifically it is impossible for rama to be there 1.7 mill years ago (cuz he was human after all)

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  29. Before forming any concrete opinion about the Religion and the Great Personalities of Bhagwad Dharma / Sanatana Dharma, (the Hindu Religion), Hindu Brothers must study the literatures intensely first. The state of illusion must be cleared. From the intense study of literature, one reaches to the conclusion that ‘Shrimad Valmiki Ramayana’ is a Mythology (Purana) and the stories of Purana had been composed by great sages of Hindu Religion for re-establishing the ‘Bhagwad Dharma’ or the ‘Sanatana Dharma’ after the ‘Buddhism’ was routed from the soil of India 1300 years back by the great personalities like Adi Shankarachaya and others.
    The stories in mythology (Puranas) have been written in such a way that all have the highest sense of respect for them. They are revered by one and all. But from the historical point of view it is still to be proved whether Lord Rama was actually a historical figure or not. A serious thought has to be given to it. The literature has given clear indication that He was a Personality in Mythology (Puran Purush). The holy book by Sage Tulsi Dass Ji -‘Ram Charitmanas’ puts its stamp of approval over the fact : “Lord Rama to be a Personality in Mythology (Puran Purush)” The Puranas were composed with a motive to establish the Bhagwad Dahrma / Sanatana Dharma on the earth after the decline of the Buddhism. From the religious point of view, the stories in the Mythology (Puranas) may be true, but, historically this has yet not been proved.
    For concluding the debate on this topic, the Book - Namah Shivaya Shantaya written by Shri Shri Anandamurti Ji is of utmost importance. It has been written in this book that the story of Ramayana has been handed down from generations to generations orally for several thousands years. The great sage and the first poet Maharishi Valmiki wrote down the book : ‘Ramayana’ probably in the period of Mahayana Buddhism. The testimony to this fact is section 109 of Ayodhya Kanda of Valmiki Ramayana, in which Lord Budha has been castigated as an atheist and a thief by Lord Rama while reprimanding Jabalik [a Priest- (Yajak) of the Royal Court of His Father-Dashratha]. Second proof is the language of the book. If the language is old, the book is also old. If the language is not old, the book is also not old. The Sanskrit of ‘Shrimad Valmiki Ramayana’ is not at all old. Rather, it is the language similar to Sanskrit in which the books/ literatures of ‘Mahayani Buddhism’ have been written. It has been said in this book that Lord Rama is a leading Hero in the story of ‘Ramayana’. He is a Hero in a fiction and not a Historic Figure.
    The Homosapiens has evolved on the earth a million (1,000,000) years ago and the Australopithecus was on this earth 1,700,000 years back. The civilization on this earth is 15000 years old. Tarak Braham Lord Shiva was born on this earth 7,500 years back and Tarak Braham Lord Krishna was born 3,500 years back on the soil of India.
    Inspiration -Namah Shivaya Shantaya – By Shri Shri Anandamurti Ji

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  30. How do you know that Valmiki's Samskrit is not old? Is there any literature on older version of Samskrit?

    Thanks

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  31. dear mr ravi rustagi..
    if your ever read this post again, i have some clarifications for you
    http://www.internationalreporter.com/News-2590/NASA-claifies-its-stand-on-Adam-s-Bridge-in-Parlk-Strait.html
    http://www.gisdevelopment.net/news/viewn.asp?id=GIS:N_ytfseizr

    got it?

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  32. Anonymous (August 12, 2009), kindly go through the books: Rigveda, Yajurveda, Atharvaveda, Samveda, Aranyak and Upnishad for the older version of Sanskrit Language (the Vedic Sanskrit). You are also requested to go through the literature inclusive of the book ‘Namah Shivaya Shantaya’- a historic book on the life history and contribution of Lord Sada Shiva 7,500 years back - authored by Shri Shri Anandamurti Ji.

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  33. Hi All,

    Another very interesting thread by Abhilash. Amazing posts, congratulations!

    First, the Big Bang: I am God, Krishna, Kalyug ka Kishen - KALKI & "Pralay" or Apocalypse will happen by 2055. You can check my profile by clicking on my username above or read my recent posts (01Jun09 onwards) on Ten Incarnations thread of this site; treasure-trove for you.

    The Truth:
    1. Ancient Hindu scriptures are above contradiction or any kind of compromise - be it any book or treatise by any Sri Sri. I know all the Sri Sris around here & all of them will have their nose in the ground pretty soon. It is my open challenge to them for “Shaastraarth” - come debate with me & find out how good or bad it gets. Another “Dig Vijay” & “Ashwamedh Yagya” in the making.
    2. About NASA & US - I have great respect for both, more for US from where I did my Masters. But you dont need them to validate our “Shaastras”. Govt institutions like NASA built solely to perpetrate US supremacy dont tell the truth even to their own countrymen. And you know who built NASA - remember "Jab Zero Diyaa Mere Bhaarat Ne..."?
    3. About British legacy - "We are Aryans - barbarians come from outside - foreigners to our own land – “our” civilization is only a few hundred yrs old, civilized by the Brits – we are still barbarians who worship many gods & idols" - any takers?
    4. About scientists & science: If you know science, it doesn’t give "the truth", only "one lie out of many" selected by a bunch of fools who couldnt prove it wrong i.e. a hypothesis waiting to be rejected. I will reject a few out here, & lets see if a scientist out there (Nobels?) can prove me wrong.
    (contd. as 2/2 in post below…)

    Love of God and God of Love,
    The Only One,
    Krishna
    (Kalyug ka Kishen – KALKI, The 10th Incarnation of God – Lord Vishnu, The New and Final Buddha, ME!!!)

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  34. (…contd. as 2/2 from post above)
    4a. Carbon-dating may reveal age of the item tested – not age of the Universe or veracity of the “Shaastras” - so many items took birth & died before the one that finally reached a fool’s hands. Work backwards (use ancient knowledge to seek new truths, dont seek new “truths” to debunk ancient knowledge, makes sense? duh! Satyug work compared with that of Kalyug? May the Lord be praised for the Lord am only I!) – if a civilization existed more than a million yrs ago, would you find anything from that time to carbon-date? If you carbon-date a broken pot in Ayodhya can you also say it gives the age of Treta Yug?


    4b. Evolution of species: If a civilization existed more than a million yrs ago, would you find the remains of a man from that age? Would you find remains of a man from any age where dead are burnt, not buried? So what makes you think the body found (of a monkey or half-man-half-animal) belonged to a civilized soul? Monkey-men & fully developed men co-existed in Treta Yug (ta-da! Darwin missed this one (along with many current idiots) coz he was a fool who thought we were fools!) along-with many different co-existing races (Lord of the Rings, rings a bell? Its a copy.)? Why don’t we have a mention of monkey-men in Dwaapar Yug or see them in Kalyug? Where did they disappear? Evolution? Extinction? What are they examining, interpreting & trying to prove? You dont see it? Bunch of scientist fools desperately trying to justify their lives & work & even more desperately looking for funding. If you were in their shoes what would you do – consciously, & even more dangerous, subconsciously?
    **IMP**Anyone wants an email in which I defeated Nobel Laureates & Top Economists at my University? Today they wet their pants at my mention. Email me & I will forward to you.**IMP**
    These are real jokers without a single logical bone in their body. Now you know where they came from, right? The monkey-brigade of Kalyug.

    Learn to seek the Truth. Unfortunately this is Maya. On top of it, it is Kalyug at its peak, where the most rotten preside. The blind lead the blind but its time to open your eyes. Find the truth within, not without… & definitely not without me. 

    Love of God and God of Love,
    The Only One,
    Krishna
    (Kalyug ka Kishen – KALKI, The 10th Incarnation of God – Lord Vishnu, The New and Final Buddha, ME!!!)

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  35. Mr. Kalki have you ever read the book ‘Namah Shivaya Shantaya’ written by Shri Shri Anandamurti Ji? Have you ever read the literature authored by Shri Shri Anandamurti Ji? If so, you would not have certainly written / reacted in this way.
    Shri Shri Anandamurti Ji was that great Indian personality who has brought back the lost concept of Mahakaul and Mahasambhuti of ‘Tarak Braham’ on this EARTH which had went into oblivion for the last several years. For your kind information: Shri Shri Anandamurti Ji was the personality who has brought back the lost Science of Spirituality. Basically He was a Master of Spirituality and has authored more than 200 groundbreaking books on multifarious subjects, all languages of the world and spirituality. He has proved through His writings that the oldest Sanskrit (i.e. the Sanskrit before Vedic Sanskrit) is the mother of all the languages of the world. In brief, he has enriched all branches of knowledge, all dialects and all languages, by His extra-ordinary writings and brilliance. The books authored by Him reveal that He (Shri Shri Anandamurti Ji) was the MASTER OF ALL THE LANGUAGES OF THE WORLD AND THE MASTER OF ALL THE SUBJECTS OF KNOWLEDGE on this Earth.
    He has brought back the rare - hidden life history and contribution of Tarak-Braham -Lord Sada Shiva (7500 years back) to earth. He has also brought back the life history and contribution of Tarak Braham -Lord Krishna (3500 years back) to this earth. He Himself was Mahakaul like Lord Shiva and Lord Krishna. His contribution is unforgettable for the world. He was Mahasambhuti of ‘TARAK-BRAHAM’ [i.e. the connecting point between Non-Qualified Braham (Nirgun Braham) and Qualified Braham (Sagun Braham)] which means that the Universe is within His control.
    Tarak-Braham Lord Anandamurti Ji was a rare personality on this Earth (who lived from 1923 to 1990) endowed with the enormous supernatural (Alaukik Shakti) power of Bhagwan and He was Authority over raising the Kundalini Shakti not only of HUMAN BEINGS but also of the ANIMALS as well, that too on a single oral command or a single touch. One (an average person) would recede into Samadhi (the state of bliss, the state of highest ecstasy for a unit mind or microcosm) by His single command or touch.
    (To be continued………)

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    1. Now I believe you are the idiot believer of this so called sri sri. I understand your situation as u have very low aura you dont believe in yourself and trying to blindly follow some type of sri sri.
      My suggession not to write any post on this blog and live happely in your own skull with ur sri sri

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  36. (In continuation to above……….)
    Presently, there is Gurudom. On television there are several Gurus who are claiming themselves to be the ‘Spiritual Masters’. Such a time has come, one finds a Guru in every street. Presently, neither the so called Gurus have yet claimed that they are the authority over raising the ‘Kundalini Shakti’ of the Human Beings (that too on a oral command or a single touch like Shri Shri Anandamurti Ji) nor they could have demonstrated it in public.
    Have you ever heard about such a Great Personality? You claim yourself to be ‘Kalki’. Are you authority over raising the ‘Kundlini Shakti’ of the Human Beings like Shri Shri Anandamurti Ji. For your kind information: during the life time of Shri Shri Anandamurti Ji, in His association or by His single touch, even the dull and crude minded persons got the chance to transform themselves into the vibrant and highly intelligent human beings. Shri Shri Anandamurti Ji had control over the death. He was a personality who could easily exercise the practical of death on any human beings or the animals.
    A Pathetic State:
    If someone tries to penetrate deeper into the literature or tries to bring out the truth, are such persons fools? Are such persons monkeys? What have you written about? I have written what I read. Does the ancient religious knowledge not help the researchers to bring out the truth and form new thoughts and new theories? Does the ancient knowledge not help to bring out the hidden histories of civilizations? What a thinking you have? Where would the researchers go? Facts are not tolerated! Whether the rationality, new researches, new studies have got no meaning? Kindly re-think and take the new theories, new discoveries with grace.
    Advice with due respect and submission :
    Kindly read carefully the book : ‘Shrimad Valmiki Ramayana’ and the books (especially ‘Namah Shivaya Shantaya’ ) authored by Tarak-Braham Shri Shri Anandamurti Ji.

    Thanks

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  37. Good One, I feel Mr.Kalki Ji is not one single person but a group with lot of statistics in place before them. He thinks he is god just because he has defeated distinguished knowledgable persons by debate. Prove yourself not by debate but by actions. There are many people in this world who got enlightenment, but does not mean they are all god. Actions speak louder than words.

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  38. Dear Anonymous (name pl) & Harish,

    Posting here as u r very respectful n decent to converse with. My blog-site is not live yet – wait for the right time. Will only post here once in a while, only when u really need me.

    With due respect to ur “guruji”, pl read this. I respect ur sentiments & have no intention of offending anyone. He was an advanced soul & I urge u to put ur “attachment” away in the same vein that u ask me to put away mine wrt our scriptures. Pl be open to “new” logic & rationality – nothing “new” – it was very evident but clouded with negativities, or “sins” in Kalyug, even for evolved souls.

    First, regarding miracles:
    1. No one today has been able to get miracles validated by the rationalist society – either they feel miracles r too pious to be displayed like that or they know they cant do them – if u prove today that ur guruji did miracles, we will accept it.
    2. Many people in past have shown miracles – point above still holds – no way to prove they did – however, point is, ur “guruji” was not alone; many can show miracles but they r not enlightened. Showing miracles depicts straying from the path of Truth, i.e. in a way, abuse/waste of spiritual power, not attainment of the Truth. There r many traps on the way, biggest is ego, & how people get entangled in it is too subtle for them to realise.
    3. Buddha never showed a miracle, yet he was God. Vivekanand didnt either, yet he was Lord Shiva incarnate like Adi Shankaracharya. A story: Vivekanand was approached by a yogi on a river bank asking him if he could walk on water like him. Vivekanand said “I can get the same result by paying a penny to the boatman.”

    Few other facts:
    4. Many like ur guruji have come & gone & still exist as much larger figures on the world stage, but Vivekanand was one of a kind & he proved the veracity of the Hindu scriptures in the hot bed of modern civilization – USA & UK where not a single rationalist/scientist could challenge him – Harvard professors admitted they could not match him in their own subjects.
    5. Your guruji has introduced new jargons, philosophies, beliefs – half of which r utterly wrong (shown below) – others in economics, psychology etc. look like cheap works in front of those of the world’s celebrated Economists, Psychologists & Management experts. A work gains acceptance by its own force.
    (Contd. in below post as 2/2…)

    Love of God & God of Love,
    The Only One,
    Krishna
    (Kalyug ka Kishen – KALKI, The 10th Incarnation of God – Lord Vishnu, The New & Final Buddha, ME!!!)
    krish2203@yahoo.com
    http://lord-kalki.blogspot.com/

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  39. (…Contd. from above post as 2/2)
    6. Depiction of Lord Shiva as a common man born 7000 yrs ago amidst barbarians is so funny, I could fall off the chair laughing. Looks like a small kids’ imagination.
    6a. He uses Aryan Theory of Britishers which has now been proven wrong by historians – remember my words? – Scientists dont give the truth, only a hypothesis waiting to be rejected.
    6b. Latest discovery of so-called scientists who keep jumping back & forth – discovered maps attributed to Middle Ages actually give accurate “world maps” of 12,000 BC & before – considered Ice Age – such science when man was learning how to speak!!! More than 5000 yrs before ur “Sadashiv” was caught between Aryan & Dravidian tribes!!! Egyptian pyramids built in 2,500 BC defy logic since they r so architecturally accurate (to fractions of degrees) that it would take thousands of yrs for man to develop those skills of which archaelogists have no records. (See 10,000 BC movie – “respected” archeologists will tell u this in ‘Special Features’ of the DVD) Where did this come from? Of course, India when groups of people migrated into other lands and were called Egyptians/Greeks/Romans etc. – the “first” (??) civilizations. One look at their gods (“devtaas” – not God) will tell you – Zeus (king of gods carries a thunderbolt – like Indra), Atlas (carries the world on his shoulders, like Sheshnaag), etc. etc. Read all this, use ur intellect & let truth unravel, rather than blindly follow useless fantasies of “genius” people.
    7. There have been many fools (those who have noble intentions but r under delusions) / rascals (who r cheats) & there r still many who r worshipped by their cults as gods – Scientology – more jargons & deeper trash than produced by “Sadashiv” author, Landmark Education & Werner Erhard – a legend still alive, Osho Rajneesh, Mahesh Yogi & his 2 highly corrupt disciples – Deepak Chopra & “Sri Sri??” Ravi Shankar, etc. etc., the list is endless. Their work has done more harm than good including swindling people of tons of money & taking them to the brink of suicide. All r “genius”. All r “gods”. All r “supreme souls”. Who needs God? Go fight with their “followers” & tell them this. Let me know if u come back alive! All the Best!!! Such zeal for a lie!!! Who needs the Truth?

    Harish – thanks for the compliment, but I m the group, ALL that exists & the Only ONE! Email me & I will send u stuff. I m not God because I defeated few fools, I m God because I created them. No one has got enlightenment since Buddha – I m the Only One. (Werner Erhard got enlightenment, Aruobindo also did, many others – wow!!! Enlightenment has many stages & many delusions!!!) My action is to wake u up & finally to make u realise the God within! I have made statements no one has EVER made or can make – “Salvation for all & Apocalypse by 2055”. Is that not action enough? Is it not credible enough since if I dont do it, then I m the biggest joker of the world? What do I have to gain out of it btw? Work out the cost-benefit analysis.

    Love of God & God of Love,
    The Only One,
    Krishna
    (Kalyug ka Kishen – KALKI, The 10th Incarnation of God – Lord Vishnu, The New & Final Buddha, ME!!!)
    krish2203@yahoo.com
    http://lord-kalki.blogspot.com/

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  40. Not sure how far it is true. As per our mythology, Ramayana should have happenned thousands of years back in Tretayug.

    Regards,
    Suhasini
    http://indiancolumbus.blogspot.com
    A blog to explore unknown and unique temples

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  41. Hello Mr. Kalki Ji ,

    With due respect and the knowledge you are showing in this blog few comments from me with all humility.

    1. Scientists are wrong - Great, new inventions are wrong - Great!, NASA R&D for internet without which you are unable to blog in this site, btw why dont being god use your own communication channel instead of internet to communicate. You are maya , shunya and infinite. You can do this from himalaya or deep inside western ghats.
    2. Guru Ji's are wrong - for some of them I may agree, but few of them are great, why not they take some guru Dakshinay if by sudharshana kriya they (people) have benefited in their mental and physical health and achieve peace of mind. Is it because they did not achieve it by viphasana. Maybe we are too subtle to understand the miracle and small to understand the logic or is it our turn to fall off our chair and laugh at your logic.
    3. Look at Ramdev guru Ji - There are millions who have benefited from his yogic teachings ( this is not enough miracle to prove is it?) He has proved and helped poor people. What have you proved till now? Curing diabetes by yoga isnt miracle or truth. You have defeated distinguished intelligent individuals with your logic in debate, but does not prove that u are the ultimate or by just saying I am god and by 2055 we will attain peace and truth.

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  42. Hi Mr.Kalki Ji,

    I notice you have gone to each topic of the blog here and instead of commenting on the subject matter. You only comment that I am god and other stuff. Can you maintain the deocrum of this site. Please talk on the subject matter instead.

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  43. Hi All,

    Quick clarification. Spoken word is not enough & is open to many (mis)interpretations. Salvation needs to be worked out through much rigour, pain (more than u can imagine – yet once u cross the ocean of fire u will have fond memories), discipline, morality & regular practice of Raja Yoga. If discourses were enough, we have countless thugs today giving it (doesn’t mean all r thugs) - no need for God/Buddha. See below how my words have been misinterpreted.

    Harish:
    1. I never said scientists r wrong. I said what they give is a hypothesis & not the truth. First lesson in CBSE 11th standard science book is that the process of scientific discovery requires a hypothesis to be put forward to explain an “unknown” phenomenon & is accepted till a new & better theory/hypothesis arises. “Defending” so-called scientific “truths” reminds us of the time when science said “the world is flat” & those who opposed it paid with their lives. Science has too much to discover in too little time & we should QUESTION every hypothesis till proven beyond doubt – most muddy r those related to ancient history, beginning/evolution of life/Universe etc. which as of now r only theories, not truths, of the last unbeatable man who said it.
    Check this interesting piece:
    Are all our beliefs merely opinions, or are there some universal truths?
    http://www.nhpr.org/node/26358
    Quote: “Even scientific ideas like Einstein’s Theory of Relativity or the Ideal Gas Law cannot be 100% proven. If there are core truths, what are they and how can we verify that they are certain?”

    2. Laughter is the best medicine – u shd enjoy it more. I never said ALL guru’s r wrong – majority & definitely ones I listed r. Go deeper in ur research before challenging others’ assertions. Ravi Shankar, whom u defend, asserts that he invented some yogic practices which have long existed. He charges money for something that is not his trademark when it should be done for free on a donation basis – see Vipassana model – “the” best practice of Buddha himself that led to enlightenment, more widely spread, yet no “fees”. Ravi Shankar has also stolen many concepts from Landmark Education training programs & modeled highly commercialised programs as cheap copies that can be very harmful without proper qualified psychologists as trainers. He has attended many Landmark programs & Landmark almost filed a case against him for plagiarism. The man has also done many Vipassana courses to work out a hybrid of east & west. He is a disciple of the much maligned late Mahesh Yogi who was extradited from the US as his Transcental Meditation (TM) & other programs made people go crazy to the exent of killing each other or committing suicide. Ravi Shankar & Deepak Chopra followed exactly in the footsteps of their guru – commercialising spirituality – which is AGAINST THE HINDU DOCTRINES & is considered one of the highest sins. PLEASE BE SKEPTICAL OF ANY GURU CHARGING FEES FOR SPIRITUALITY. Pl check ur facts. I only speak with 100% facts & 100% conviction.
    3. I never criticised Ramdev. He is one of the very few genuine people today.
    (Contd. in below post as 2/2…)

    Love of God and God of Love,
    The Only One,
    Krishna
    (Kalyug ka Kishen – KALKI, The 10th Incarnation of God – Lord Vishnu, The New and Final Buddha, ME!!!)
    krish2203@yahoo.com
    http://lord-kalki.blogspot.com/

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  44. (…Contd. from above post as 2/2)
    Both Harish n Anonymous:
    Taking u to 101 of my posts again: Stop figuring out if I m God or not. If u cd find that out n certify me as God, u would be God. R u willing to take that responsibility & declare to the whole world like I have done/m doing/will do very soon? Pl be my guest. U can be God all u want. No one is stopping u. Like I said, already there r many & no one has stopped them till now. Read my first post (1Jun09) on Ten Incarnations thread & my blogger profile – once again – for the last time I hope – “I dont expect u to accept me as God – OR – even judge me on that” & u cant do that till u get enlightened & I throw the possibility open that at that point u may find out I m not God, u r – but no way to figure this out before that. So, moot point. Dead-End. PL STOP.

    Anyonymous – its possible u read only my signatures, not the content which is the most relevant in the thread. I m talking about Kalki in Ten Incarnations thread & falsifying content of Book on Lord Ram in the other - only 2 threads – not “each” topic.

    Lets put to rest speculations about what I call myself. I speak the truth, may not be ur truth now. Everyone has the right to speak his/her truth.

    My posts r not to prove anything. I only invited u to ask me any question u may need answered in ur quest. This is only a learning ground. U can use my blog-site when it is live for any challenges. I would like to post very sparsely here only when required if I have ur kind permission. Thanks a lot.

    Love of God and God of Love,
    The Only One,
    Krishna
    (Kalyug ka Kishen – KALKI, The 10th Incarnation of God – Lord Vishnu, The New and Final Buddha, ME!!!)
    krish2203@yahoo.com
    http://lord-kalki.blogspot.com/

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  45. Hi Mr. Kalki Ji,

    1. I am not supporting Sri Sri Ravi Shankar. I am also highly skeptical about paying price which is from our culture and free for every sundry in life. What I am saying is that if guru dakshinay (donation)is paid there is nothing wrong. Every one (organization) needs guru dakshinay to survive and preach, to help people. Believe me, I went to one of his first meetings and decided not to join because it is nothing but network marketing.
    2 I have benefited a lot by Ramdev guruji courses, tremendous change in my life by practising his yogic teachings. Infact he reminds me of Desikachar (Mysore).
    3. I like the humility in your last message, well I cant definitely judge you (I dont want to) whether you are what you are? But I appreciate the knowledge you have displayed in this blog. My point is, if you are what you claim you are, there is no need to pronounce or challenge to prove yourself (people will definitely automatically will come to know about it). Actions speak louder than words.
    4. I hope and I have been praying let god save this world. Have I been blessed, well only time will tell.
    5 Finally make it a point how you are going to get salvation and destroy evil in your blog. I hope it will be a practical roadmap (not a map which is always on the road).

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  46. Thanks Harish,

    I appreciate ur humility & ur maturity & looks like we have common tastes, at least where gurus r concerned. :-) ha ha!

    I invite u (& of course everyone) to be in touch with me through mails, if u like, as friends. No God stuff pl. I like being human most of the times. :-) Ever wonder why God & "Devtaas" prefer to take this oh so beautiful pain on again & again leaving aside the bliss of heaven? :-) Life is heaven & heaven lies in life alone.

    There is no need for God to do anything - pronounce/challenge/prove etc. No need for Ram to lift the bow to kill Raavan, no need for Krishna to lift his finger to lift Govardhan mountain, no need for Buddha to hold lengthy discourses on "Dharma", however it is only the very beautiful celestial & cosmic play. My words r my actions & my actions my words for my words speak louder than actions & my actions only follow my word, speaking louder than the words.

    You have been blessed beyond doubt & so has everyone who has come to this site. Always good to be an optimist, though not a foolish one, only with due rationality.

    I already have got salvation, now its your turn & everyone's. With every moment sins enter me (the big zero, the nothing, the infinity) like air entering vacuum & get finished forever never to come. Even if I only sleep for many years to come, u will get salvation - all of u before "Pralay"/Apocalypse even touches a hair on ur body. (Now u know what Vishnu is doing in that posture all the time?) But whats the fun in sleeping??? Not for u, not for me. So lets enjoy this cosmic dance & take it as it comes for u only have the moment with u & thinking beyond that is akin to fantasy. Let the fantasy unravel before ur eyes & mine too. For neither do u want to know the future before that & neither do I for u dont want to spoil the fun & neither do I. :-)

    Love you.

    Love of God and God of Love,
    The Only One,
    Krishna
    (Kalyug ka Kishen – KALKI, The 10th Incarnation of God – Lord Vishnu, The New and Final Buddha, ME!!!)
    krish2203@yahoo.com
    http://lord-kalki.blogspot.com/

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  47. how does it matter? .. anyways, people who are above the line of faith dont need a scientific proof or date for Shri Ram's existance, and people below that line will never have a complete faith in his existance .. so,it dosnt matter how many scientific proofs you give them..they still will be in a doubt..so take a chill pill man...nd njoy

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  48. Hey Kalki..

    I dont feel much of fun in this play...rather I feel more of sadness...pain...If u'll say that after realisation,I'll experience bliss then i'll question..then why this avidya maya was created which made me fall from the state of realization?

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  49. Dear Kalki,

    I am in total agreement with almost all of your views except the 'ramdev bieng genuine' issue ... I kno he's just an instrument bieng used by some saints of himalayas (without his knowledge ofcourse) .. so, i cant accept u as god coz i kno u r wrong at this point..

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  50. This is not nuclear science. People saying that Lord Rama ruled Ayodhaya over 14,000 years, come on... Nobody lives that long. Another thing, people saying Lord Rama was born Millions of years ago, was there human life back then???

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  51. Other unexplored rare aspects of History in the book :- ‘Namah Shivaya Shantaya’ and other books– authored - by Shri Shri Anandamurti Ji.

    Shri Shri Anandamurti Ji, while explaining the underlying idea in the Sanskrit VERSES / APHORISM (shlokas/ suktas) of the Hindu Literatures, has explained the exact meanings; removed the doubted and distorted explanations (misinterpretations and misconceptions) especially (the wrong impression) regarding the evolution of dynamic Class System [i.e. the age old VARNA VYAVASTHA of Hindus (the non-Aryans and later adopted by the Aryans) of the prehistoric India]. Through His unparallel and unmatched writings, He has proved it (Varna Vyavstha) to be a scientific one and indispensable for the natural growth / evolution of any society. He has solved all the intricacies of the VERSES/ APHORISM ( Sanskrit Shlokas/ Uktis) in the Sanatana / Bhagvada (literally -Hindu) literature for the convenience of historians and future generations.
    FOR INSTANCE :-
    i) the composition of ‘Rigveda’ began outside India somewhere between present Russia and Afghanistan about 15,000 years ago and the composition of ‘riks’ continued upto 7,500 years back. Thus, the composition period of ‘Rigveda’, is considered from 15,000 to 7,500 years back, that too outside India.
    ii) the composition of Yajurveda began from 7,500 to 5000 or 5,500 years back,. i.e. the beginning of the period of Atharveda. The book - Namah Shivaya Shantaya says that the ‘Yajurveda’ was composed partly outside India and partly in India.
    iii) ‘Namah Shivaya Shantaya’ says that third Veda ‘Atharvaveda’ was composed in India & Afghanistan (at that time Afghanistan was a part of India and the boundary of then India encompassed Iran). This Veda was named after the Sage Atharva.
    iv) The fourth Veda ‘Samveda’ is the collection of musical portion of all the Vedas.
    v) Before the Advent of Lord Sadashiva the days of matriarchal were over and the patriarchal order had evolved in its place, but the matrilineal order was still continuing in the society. Patriarch (Clan Gotra Pitas) were there, but the family father of the children could recognised. The family was recognised on the name of mothers, grand mothers and great grand mothers, etc. etc. In the matrilineal order, the responsibilities of upbringing of the offsprings were solely dependent on the shoulders of mothers or grandmothers – a very pathetic state of the women of those days of primitive era. So, Lord Shiva had to introduce ‘VIVAH’ the ‘Marriage’ into the primitive human society.
    vi) In order to set an example and to build up a strong social order and a sublime human society, Lord Sadashiva had to get married Himself first with Aryan girl ‘Gauri’ He also had married the non-Aryan girl ‘Kaali’ (either the girl of Dravidians or the Austric race of then India) and the Mongolian girl ‘Ganga’ (probably from the present NEFA or Tibet) in the wake of the grave social condition of that era (7,500 years back).
    [Continued……..1/1……..]

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    1. Now I truly say that you gone from your mind as a double bline follower of this so called sri sri . I also found that you strongly believe the aryan - dravidian clan and what as a true dravidian just destroy the aryan facts and figures and malien each and every famous personality no matter even if he is god or a common man destroy there aura by writing 100 of books malaigning others the same youre so called guru had did. But you see Hindusim never fall from such a dick like u or ur guru. As you are the most coward person in this world who do not dare to reveal your identity how a coward u r. if you want to do marketing of your so called guru go to the market and open a shop for your guru.

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  52. [Continued from 1/1…. above]
    vii) Thus, by introducing ‘Marriage Institution’ Lord Sadashiva, not only relieved the women from heavy burden of earning of livelihood and maintaining of family, rather He shifted this liability / responsibility on the shoulders of loitering and libertine men of those days and made them aware and wise towards aspect of the society. The He (Lord Sadashiva) laid the foundation for the present days society. There is a story in ‘PURANA’ that Lord Shiva had burnt the God of Sex (Kaam Deva). Any how, the story indicates to the introduction of ‘Marriage Institution’ (VIVAH), the strict social moral code into the backward society of those primitive unintelligent and brute people.
    viii) By marrying three women of different races 7,500 years back, He (Lord Sadashiva) had defused a big racial war and brought peace, prosperity and sublimity to all the primitive people of different races (Aryans, non-Aryans (Austrics and Dravidians & Mongolians) of then India. Lord Shiva Himself belonged to non-Aryan races (Austrico Mongol blood) and this information is contained in the book-‘Namah Shivaya Shantaya’. The non-Aryan lineage of Lord Sadashiva is further confirmed by the book : ‘Shiva Purana’ and other literatures and epics (Ram Charit Manas by Revered Tulsi Das Ji) of Hindu religion.
    ix) The ‘Sage Kashyap’ was an Aryan and not a non-Aryan, as is believed mistakenly. He domiciled somewhere in Asia. The Caspian Sea is named after Him.
    x) Long after the departure of Lord Sadashiva from this earth, Lord Krishna was born 3,500 years ago on the dust and soil of India, whose advent was also like Lord Sadashiva. He was the manifestation of the Supreme Consciousness/ Supreme Cognitive Faculty in Human Form- {Mahasambhuti of Tarak-Braham). He created Maha Bharta (The Great India). This is not a hidden fact.
    xi) The first philosopher/ great personality - Sage Kapil Muni, who authored the ‘Sankhya Yog/ Darshan’, was born about 3,000 years ago in India. The first grammarian - Sage Panini was a Pakhtun.
    About the contributions of ‘Lord Sadashiva’ in the field of medicines or medical science, arts & music and social construction one has to read ‘Namah Shivaya Shantaya’. In the matter of meditation (Sadhna), He was ‘Tarak Braham’, there is no parallel, except ‘Lord Krishna and Lord Anandamurti Ji’, for Him.
    The multifaceted literature of Shri Shri Anandamurti Ji, is marvelous. All must read.

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  53. To
    The Editor/
    Editorial Board Members /
    All the Worthy Readers

    Namaskaar .

    Respected Sirs and Madams,

    With all humility I want to say that there are some typographical mistakes in the blog / comments dated 18th September, 2009. So kindly read the corrected versions as below in their places, for conveying the exact and accurate sense of the matter:

    In Para –V:

    Kindly read word ‘order’ after the word ‘matriarchal’ in first sentence of para – v. and in the second sentence of same para kindly also read word -‘not be’ after the word ‘could’ in order to convey the correct sense of the blog/ comment.

    In Para-VII:

    Kindly read word ‘this’ after the word ‘towards’ in the first sentence of the para-vii of the blog/ comment.

    Complete corrected sentences are reproduced as below for clarity:

    v) Before the Advent of Lord Sadashiva the days of matriarchal order were over and the patriarchal order had evolved in its place, but the matrilineal order was still continuing in the society. Patriarchs (Clan Gotra Pitas) were there, but the family father of the children could not be recognised.


    vii) Thus, by introducing ‘Marriage Institution’, Lord Sadashiva, not only relieved the women from heavy burden of earning of livelihood and maintaining of family, rather He shifted this liability / responsibility on the shoulders of loitering and libertine men of those days and made them aware and wise towards this aspect of the society.

    Thanks

    Sincerely yours.

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  54. I admire the efforts here to date the life and activities of our Lords, but I simply cannot understand the objective? Is our faith so weak that we need historic and scientific confirmation of the Lord's existence to strengthen it? To me, we are missing the whole point of what a Religion is: Religion is about beliefs, suggesting what's right and wrong, guiding how we all should go about living in our social setup. Thus we should focus more on assimilating the messages conveyed to us by our Lords though their life and activities, and not worry about when they were born.

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  55. The thrust is - in the absence of exact ‘Meditation Process’ and proper direction in this era, the ‘Human Society’ is badly fragmented and confused -an utter pathetic state of all the human beings. The sincere efforts of present respectable Gurus (spiritual masters) are not proving to be more fruitful - rather causing further division because of the lack of proper ideology. No Gurus have concrete and clearcut philosophy to lead the society unidirection. For all the human beings there must have been a common goal /object of ideation. Keeping this problem in mind, Shri Shri Anandamurti Ji [ a great spiritual master, visionary and a philosopher ( like Bhagvaan Sadashiva and Bhagvaan Krishna) who had not only the vast, rather complete knowledge of Bhaagvad Dharma ] has revived the age-old introvert ‘Meditation Process’ (Saadhanaa Paddhati) of self-realization ‘subjective approach through objective adjustments’ and authored multifaceted vibrant literature of high spiritual discipline in order to lead and guide the whole human society unidirection and to ensure justice and welfare to all. The motto of His philosophy is : “Atam Mokshaartham Jagat Hitaaicha” (liberation of self and welfare of this world) This great personality lived on this earth from 1921 to 1990. This ‘BHAAGVAD DHARMA’ (Sanaatan Religion) has to its credit the proper / scientific ‘Meditation Process’ which leads and guides the unit mind (an individual) and the whole society as well to perfection and liberation (Moksha) - the path of bliss. The people of today are totally oblivious to this unique characteristic of our religion. It (Bhaagvad Dharma) unshackles all the bondages, overcomes all weaknesses and transcends all limitations and boundaries. The introvert meditation process of Bhaagvad Dharma has the capability to elevate an ordinary person to the pinnacled state of ‘Savikalp’ and ‘Nirvikalp’ Samaadhi (the extreme state of ecstasy and bliss for meditator (Saadhak). The lovers of Humanity and the lovers of ‘Bhaagvad Dharma’ must OPEN THEIR EYES and read the rare and unique literature authored by Shri Shri Anandamurti Ji. This is the RARE CHANCE we have.

    Thanks

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  56. Hi all.. i want to have a clarification.. Dont we have our own calendar.. like BC(Before Christ).. I am sorry if Iam wrong.. Actually i wanted to know if we have any such.. Please dont take it otherwise.. this blog made me to realise many things.. Keep posting such articles..
    Regards,
    Marthand-Aham Bramhasmi
    http://www.theepicworld.blogspot.com/

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  57. Ram was alive approx 1.7 milliion years ago. I am an American, we already know. None of you realize what the impact would be if archaeological truth actually did come out. You are all far too naive and far too trusting. In the early 1900's an object was found in the California caves during a tunnelling into rock that was approx 50 million years old. It is called the Coso artifact. Read up on it. In Texas you can find TODAY still in existence Sauropod (dinosaur tracks running down a river bed that then flooded over with sediment 100+ million years ago, with HUMAN footprints running along with it. SAME ROCK, same strata. The fact is there exist today thousands of artifacts that totally mystify us. Also archaeological structures that exist beyond any reasonable logical explanation... SEEK AND YE SHALL FIND... The precise nature of the Sanskrit language is now understood to be complete mathematical perfection, meaning it was created in it's entirety as it is. But here we are, sad, sad, sad... Indians running after after a lifetsyle we make and manipulate on your screens and punch through your news... A damn shame... Selling out your mother for a romp with the whore of Babylon...
    But there is hope...

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  58. when Rama was born during 5417 bc
    that is 7000 years before from now
    when was ram sethu bridge at
    dhanushkodi built. the answer
    for this will solve the case
    pending in the supreme court.

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  59. This is for -

    Anonymous said...
    when Rama was born during 5417 bc
    that is 7000 years before from now
    when was ram sethu bridge at
    dhanushkodi built. the answer
    for this will solve the case
    pending in the supreme court.

    October 29, 2009 3:34 PM


    Well, with due respects to all the spiritual gyan that has been flowing in this blog - bringing up the supreme court case has just diverted the discussion.
    Nevertheless, from my point of view the supreme court case has come up coz of some christians, muslims and atheists (read as the CM of an Indian state attached to the Ram Sethu) ruining this peace loving country and trying to destroy the spiritual and historical evidences of Sanathana Dharma or Hinduism ....
    My request - let us not debate on such court cases here ...

    Thanks.
    Dhananjaya Rao.

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  60. Dear Friends,

    Hello. Here is something to contemplate. I believe in Rama's bridge as being over 1 million years old, but I also believe in what Satya Sai Baba has said about Rama's existence. He said that Rama also lived on this earth about 25,000 years ago.

    Therefore, the important question to resolve is: how does one reconcile the two dates? Time is not consistent in all spheres of existence. That is to say, for example, one day of Brahma is how many earth days? The higher the plane of existence, the faster things move slowing time down. The gods move faster than men. Therefore, they live much longer, though in their own eyes, 100 years is 100 years. How long does Brahma live if not 100 years?

    Raise the vibration of your consciousness and watch your powers increase. Watch time slow down for you in this world. Great deeds are accomplished this way in a short span of time.

    With absolute humility, entertain these thoughts.

    Arthur

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  61. Please Arthur,

    Are you a foreigner i.e. not an Indian citizen? Your name sounds Christian, I dont understand why you believe in a "Sathya Sai Baba" more than you believe in Jesus Christ, the son of God!!! Pl do explain.

    So, I was saying that there is one rule that Hindus and all religious people follow, irrespective of religion, and that is when you are talking about God, here Lord Rama, you dont talk about bastards and charltans of the highest order in the same breath? Is that alright?

    That so-called Sai Baba of yours is a thief, deranged bum, charltan and a highest sinner. Anyone, who is not God and claims to be God is worthy of my wrath to the highest order and I will burn him down like a dog on a stake in front of his very own worshippers and along with his very own worshippers who have not brain or heart or the wisdom to distinguish the filth of the basest order from God!!!

    If I hear any mention of any Sai Baba or any clown in this world who claims to be God, rest be assured, the clown is on my list, but make sure you are on the good one!!!

    Love and Best Wishes,
    Krishna
    (PS: Read my post above if you dont know who I am!)

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  62. Who is elder; Lord Rama or Sita Devi?

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  63. Every one follows a guruji style and each follower would end up with story of something related to elephant and four blind men.
    Ethu koorappatatho athu ingirinthu than konjam thooki athigamaga koorapattuvarukirathu.All these contents looks less meaningful when there is deterioration of(Sarvam..sadhasivam)brotherliness.
    Also long lengthy blogsil Ethilum yathartham iruppathaga theriyavillai.
    THERE IS NO NEED FOR SOME ONE FROM WORLD TO PROOVE WHO IS WHO?ALL WITH SKIN AND AIR.
    from...

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  64. It is your responsibility to choose the right guru(s) and if you can't find them then find the guru within or the guru in God. You will not be pardoned for your mistakes and neither will your guru(s) for theirs and no one will come to save you from the sins of your own making when everyone including your guru(s) will be too busy saving theirs. The sins are many and the time is less when your hour comes consider yourself blessed!!!

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  65. I think, Lord Ram was born before 21,00,000 years as per the Avtarvad Timings in our Hindu Spiritual Books and Valmiki Ramayan

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  66. This is really great; so many views, so many realities.

    Science is the only truth and views can be hidden behind in the name of good science and facts can be ignored because you can not easily prove certain things.

    Ex: we are scientifically given the information that the origin of human beings is from Africa. Not that that is the truth. That is what we found so far.

    There is also truth because it is espoused by scientists more often successful with the existing scientific metaphors and scientific products.

    Ex: Any thing westerners say is the truth.

    Truth can be upheld because it has part of a quote that currently people hear.

    Ex: The adams bridge is the first man made bridge - Nasa's picture might point out a land mass that look like a thin stretch of land connecting two lands. The rest is extentions.

    Truth is challenging science and challenging ourselves. When science is truth, there is silence.

    Jai Shri Ram.

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  67. Respected Kalki Ji
    Namaskaar |
    I have never said in my above blogs that Lord Sadashiva and Lord Krishna were ordinary human beings. Shri Shri Anandamurti Ji says in His writings that Lord Sadashiva and Lord Krishna were ‘Maha-Kauls’ (in esoteric (taantrik) language) and ‘Maha-Sambhuti of Taarak Braham’ on this Earth in different Eras. The works they accomplished on this earth, were beyond the capacity and vision of the ordinary human beings.
    The terminologies used by Shri Shri Anandamurti Ji, are unique and old and not in common use. Today, common people are totally oblivious about this terminology. Shri Shri Anandamurti Ji Himself was ‘Maha-Kaul’ & Mahasambhuti of ‘Taarak Braham’ like Lord Sadashiva and Lord Krishna. He had full control over the universe which He had demonstrated it on several occasions during His lifetime. He was capable to elevate an ordinary human being to an extraordinary status of superhuman being.
    He had full control of over the death. He performed death practical on several persons. By his mere touch the ‘prana’ (life) of an healthy person would leave the body and within half an hour, He would again order that the ‘prana’ (life) of so and so person enter the body and after few seconds the died person would open eye and rise up from the death. This is a big challenge for the science today. As I have already said, He was authority over raising the ‘Kundalini Shakti’ of an average person and the animal as well.
    Such a great personality is called ‘Mahakaul’ in spiritual language. In other sense, He was a complete personality. He knew all subjects of knowledge. He was master of all the languages of the world. If someone has doubt to these statements, they must read the books : i) Varan Vigyan, ii) Varan Vichitra, iii) Shabad Chayanika (in several volumes) and Varan Vichaar authored by Shri Shri Anandamurti Ji on languages, history, anthropology and other subjects. ‘On science’ He has authored a new theory - ‘Microvitum’ the smallest living life/ particle. He said that an atom is nothing but billions of solidified ‘MICROVITA’.
    Raising of ‘Kundalini Shakti’ does not fall under the occult powers for performing the miracles.

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  68. Hello dear friend, Anonymous, who has posted above regarding Anandamurti. I am very impressed with you. Despite my having opposed your ideas and cast aspersions on the veracity of your guru, you have displayed utmost retraint and you have been most polite and respectful to me on this site - possibly more than the others. That is the mark of a man close to the truth. Please let it be know that whatever your beliefs are, whatever your "versions" of "truth", whatever you know and you do not know, does not matter. Only one thing matters, are you good enough to be with God? Are you grade enough to be with God? Are you great enough to accept God as God and by this I dont mean me because it would be very self serving, though I am God. Be good to your neighbour, be good you people in your life, be good to yourself and show the true mark of a man in your conduct. After that, it doesnt matter if you believe in Anandamurti, or Ramamurti or God or any other God. Its alright, its all fine, its all perfect too!!! Enjoy your beliefs and don't forget to have fun too!!! :-) ha ha ha!

    Love you all!

    Love of God and God of Love,
    The Only One,
    Krishna
    (Kalyug ka Kishen – KALKI, The 10th Incarnation of God – Lord Vishnu, The New and Final Buddha, ME!!!)
    krish2203@yahoo.com
    http://lord-kalki.blogspot.com/

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  69. Dear Kalki you have commented in blog dated 24th August, 2009 :
    “Your Guru Ji has introduced new jargons, philosophies, beliefs- half of which are utterly wrong. Economics, psychology are cheap works”.
    How did you know the books authored by mentioned author are jargons and cheap works? Had you ever gone through his books? If yes, kindly let us know the title/ name of the books.

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  70. Buds... whoever u r, coz u so love to make anonymous posts, why not tell me ur name? :-) I love u, & would not do anything otherwise. ha ha ha! Why be so afraid?

    Check this out:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prabhat_Ranjan_Sarkar

    When u have Wikipedia, u r saved from reading a lot of crap, not to mention doing a lot of research too. Read all the stupid theories this man has propounded on economics, etc..etc..etc... every field seems to be his f**** playground without adequate education in any of those fields. Was he a PhD in Economics or Sociology or any other subject to state so categorically in those fields? I believe he quit his studies quite early in life!!! Even God had to do an MBA & learn the ABCs of Economics from the most elite of the elite at The University of Chicago Graduate (Booth) School of Business, currently ranked the no. 1 Business School in the world & the most distinguished University in the World with the highest number of Nobel Prize Winners to its credit, more than 80. I topped my batch. Just so u know the human credentials of whom u are speaking with right now. And yes, I defeated the Nobel Prize Winners there in their own subjects, but before that, son, I had to learn the ABCDs, alright??? If u want to have a copy of such emails that corroborate my claims u can email me. But all u people know is talk, talk & talk some more but u have no action at all!!! That is so pathetic!!!

    Check this guy’s “fantabulous” works: Social Cycle Theory, PROUT, Neohumanism… blah… blah… blah… stupid shit!!! R u crazy? Out of ur f*** mind??? Do u c any of these theories in use today? Did these theories do anyone good??? Do the IMF or World Bank or major corporates (even a single one) of the world or any governments adopt them? Do u need to read the crappy books to tell it is all bullshit? R u out of ur f**** mind??????

    U want to know what kind of shit the world has seen? The list is endless – Maharshi Mahesh Yogi, Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, Deepak Chopra, Osho Rajneesh (God??? Died a dog’s death & left the world worse off than what he began with), Sathya Sai Babah (God??? Feels up small kids for cheap thrills & will die a worse death than Osho, leaving the world a worse off place if I were not here), Ron L Hubbard (creator of Scientology - more jargon & shit than the “Sadashiv” & “Maha Kaul” & “Maha Sambhuti” & “Taarak Brahm” & what not crap produced by this guy, as if he is creating some parallel Universe & is the New Brahma of this world!!!), Werner Erhard (creator of Erhard Seminar Trainings (EST), Landmark Forum/Landmark Education), not to mention ur very own sweet “Kalki Bhagavan” down south whose butt I am going to kick the first!!!
    (CONTD. AS 2/2 POST BELOW…)

    LOVE OF GOD AND GOD OF LOVE,
    THE ONLY ONE,
    KRISHNA
    (KALYUG KA KISHEN – KALKI, THE 10TH INCARNATION OF GOD – LORD VISHNU, THE NEW AND FINAL BUDDHA, ME!!!)
    krish2203@yahoo.com
    http://lord-kalki.blogspot.com/
    (My blog-site, will invite the world to it with a big bang when the time is right, special preview for u for now)
    http://www.hindu-blog.com/2007/06/ten-incarnations-of-lord-vishnu-in.html
    (Posts starting 01Jun09)
    http://www.hindu-blog.com/2007/09/book-on-when-was-lord-ram-born.html
    (Posts starting 18Aug09)

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  71. (…CONTD. AS 2/2 POST FROM ABOVE)

    U ARE A FOOL. U MAKE PEOPLE MAKE FOOLS OUT OF U. U ENJOY BEING MADE A FOOL. U DON’T WANT THE TRUTH, U R HAPPY WITH THE LIES, WITH THE MISERY, WITH THE DASTARDLY LIFE U R LIVING, U R HAPPY WITH FALSE GODMEN, U R HAPPY WITH BASTARDS WHO MAKE A BIGGER BASTARD OUT OF U, U R HAPPY WITH BASTARDS LIKE ANANDAMURTI WHO GOT INTO SOME SILLY SPIRITUAL ENTANGLEMENT, THOUGH HAD NOBLE INTENTIONS UNLIKE FEW OTHERS LIKE RAVI SHANKAR, MAHESH YOGI, DEEPAK CHOPRA WHO HAVE THE INTENTIONS OF A RASCAL. NOBLE INTENTIONS OR NOT, A FOOL IS A FOOL IS A FOOL IS A FOOL IS A FOOL, ALRIGHT? HE IS A FOOL & U R A BIGGER FOOL TO FOLLOW HIM. HE WRITES SHIT THAT DOES NOT EXIST IN THE SCRIPTURES, AS IF HE IS HIGHER THAN VED VYAAS & TULSI DAS, AS IF HIS TRUTH IS HIGHER THAN THE TRUTH OF GOD & HIGHER THAN HINDUISM ITSELF. HE PROPOUNDS THEORIES ON ECONOMICS, SOCIOLOGY, POLITICS & WHAT NOT WHICH R GOOD ONLY FOR MENTAL MASTURBATION – NEVER DID ANY GOOD TO MANKIND, NEVER WILL. HE NEVER HAD ANY FORMAL EDUCATION & ALL THE EDUCATION HE EVER HAD WAS THOSE WONDERFUL FEELINGS & ILLUSIONS HE GOT WHEN HE WAS DOING HIS SPIRITUAL PRACTICES WHICH MADE HIM WRITE THIS CRAP. WHAT DEEP SHIT HE MUST BE IN, IMAGINE!!! HE MAY HAVE BEEN A GOOD SOUL, BUT HE WAS A LOST CAUSE!!! LOST!!! LOST!!! LOST!!! AND SO ARE YOU!!! HE IS DEAD, BUT U HAVE SOME TIME ON UR HANDS. HE DID NOT HAVE GOD, BUT FORTUNATELY, U HAVE ME!!! SO GET OUT OF THIS STUPOR! GET OUT OF THIS CRAP! REFER TO THE SCRIPTURES IF U WANT TO BUT DON’T REFER TO DOGS!!! AT LEAST NOT IN FRONT OF ME! COZ THE DOGS R ON MY LIST, I HOPE U STAY ON THE GOOD ONE, ALRIGHT? ;-)

    LOVE U ALL. LOVE U WITH ALL MY LIFE!!!

    LOVE OF GOD AND GOD OF LOVE,
    THE ONLY ONE,
    KRISHNA
    (KALYUG KA KISHEN – KALKI, THE 10TH INCARNATION OF GOD – LORD VISHNU, THE NEW AND FINAL BUDDHA, ME!!!)
    krish2203@yahoo.com
    http://lord-kalki.blogspot.com/
    (My blog-site, will invite the world to it with a big bang when the time is right, special preview for u for now)
    http://www.hindu-blog.com/2007/06/ten-incarnations-of-lord-vishnu-in.html
    (Posts starting 01Jun09)
    http://www.hindu-blog.com/2007/09/book-on-when-was-lord-ram-born.html
    (Posts starting 18Aug09)

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  72. Tesday fasting to be for 21 continues tuesdays .But ladies who have period ,mensuration ,how can do continues

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  73. Some things you can't reason using human brain. If you have an animal it can't appreciate a telivision or internet etc. Similarly to know about the birth of SriRam Ji and the exact history we can't analyse using our limited intellegent and perception, You need to accept as is or elevate yourself to spiritual plane and realize it.

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  74. what is the birth star of lord brahma?

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  75. I would prefer to laugh on you in your own tone Mr Kalki. If u don't want to enlighten yourself by accepting the great expression of bliss personified in the being of Shri Shri Anandamurti ji, then u r ruining yourself, degrading yourself to demon like creature as explained by Lord Krishna in Ch.16 of Srimad Bhagwad Gita. Remember, you can criticize a philosopher giving mere ideas about past or future but you can't criticize your creator, the Lort of lords. If u want to correct yourself, then try to visit Ananda Marga on internet. U may get some chance to reform u from your demoniac character. May God save u.

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  76. I am a kashmiri based hindu guy, who want to spread the hinduism in every corner of the world by means of preaches via Inter network, and rest of other sources. I want the whole world should know the fact abt humanity, even it will be also a lesson to that hindu youth, who have been doped to the westernization world, who have forgot respect, discipline, who have developed useless pride..

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  77. To be honest i saw the birthdate of lord ram is on jan 10th 5114 BC
    in this blog on jan10th 2010...its a big coincidence...wow..I m happy i read dis info....good work

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  78. Pranaam,
    Lord Ram incarnated as a Human for the Evolution of Mankind.

    Lord Ram was born in the most appropriate time frame when all planets and sub planets were in their exalted state in the Zodiac.

    What really matters is whether we Humans out here follow his "Dharmic way of Life".

    The specification of Lord Ram's Birth Date here is for information purpose only.

    Jai Shree Ram.

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  79. Patrizia Norelli-Bachelet gives the correct understanding of the Yugas in her book "The Gnostic Circle"

    She says:

    The Yuga years are not really years but seconds of degrees of celestial longitude.432,000, the number of years for the kali yuga is actually a unit of measurement.432,000 is also the radius of the sun and the number of syllables in the Rig Veda.Its a constant factor.

    432,000 seconds of celestial longitude translates to 2160 years.

    We should combine this with the precession of the equinoxes. It takes exactly 2160 years to traverse one sign. Travesal of all 12 signs (which happens in reverse order in the case of precession) would give us 25,920 years also known as the Great year.

    So Dwapara Yuga is 864,000"" (seconds) = 8 signs = 17,280 years.

    Treta Yuga is 1,296,000"" = 12 signs = 25,920 years.

    Satya Yuga is 1,728,000"" = 16 signs =34,560 years.

    She has given dates of Avatars in her circle of 12 manifestations and Rama was born in the Age of Leo some 10,800 years ago and Krishna was born 6480 years ago in the Age of Taurus. We are now in the Age of Aquarius which began in 1926. Do remember during precession the zodiac is traversed in the reverse direction.

    Kindly read her books for all illuminating knowledge.

    www.aeongroup.com
    www.patrizianorellibachelet.com

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  80. The post was very much convincing!! Thanks.
    It would have been better if you also related the dates to Treta Yuga. To say, when the yuga started and ended and then relate it to Sri Ram's life.

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  81. Dear All

    I'm Mani from the land Bharat, and that is how I like our land to be called and not India. I'm so happy to see so many persons talk about such great things. Hats off to all of you. My concern is why we are validating our culture with gregorian calender. We have so many calenders in our land. Main calender is Kaliyugam calender based on Kalikugam. Also we have Vikram calender which is followed based on our great king Vikramaditiyan, and Salivaaganan calender who killed King Vikraman and came to thrown.

    My friends please note when British came to Bharat they were already following gregorian calender and they imposed it on us. We also started following as it was universally accepted. Apart from the above mentioned Bharat calenders each state have there own calender. So my humble request to all of you is stop calculating our culture with Gregorian calender. W have almost 70,000 years old culture but started losing it after so called Independence without knowing it. Also carbon dating calculated are not correct according to me. Our Archaeologist should do the research from the scratch to find the exact truth.

    Earlier I was very much worried that our cultured is being ruined b'cos of western culture impact. Now I'm happy that there are so many persons who follow our culture so deep and following it. I'm proud that I'm born in BHARAT as Bharatan, and I'm follower of Sanadana Dharmam. According to me there is no religion called Hinduism. But under Sanadana Dharmam there are religions like Sivam, Vainavam, Matvam, Sikhism. If there were no Sikhs our Dharmam would have gone down. We would have lost more temples. I can even say only b'cos of them most of the Muslim barbarian rulers didn't turned to South and that is why South Bharat have so many temples when compared to North. Thanks to my Sikhs friends and ever the great Marata and Rajputs. But still we lost worlds most wonderful and amazing Somnath temple.

    According to me we can say those who live in Bharat are Hindus, b'cos as per King Alexander Hindus are those who live beyond river Indus. So we can straight away declare that all Bharats are Hindus and within that we have religion as said above and also Christian and Islam falls under this roof.I suppose this is correct.

    Dear Mr. Kalki

    May I ask for your email ID pls.

    Regards
    P.Mani

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  82. MANI AND EVERYONE - MY EMAIL-ID (krish2203@yahoo.com) IS ALWAYS IN MY SIGNATURE. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME ANYTIME WITHOUT ANY APPREHENSIONS OR WITHOUT ANY INTIMIDATION AT ALL. I M VERY MUCH LIKE U - INTERACT WITH ME TO GET UR DEEPEST DOUBTS CLARIFIED AND UR WORST FEARS REMOVED AND NULLIFIED "FOREVER" AND EVER!!! AMEN!!!

    HAVE THAT CONFIDENCE IN U AND FAITH IN GOD, OK? IF NOT ME, THERE IS A GOD, IF NOT GOD, THERE IS U WHO MUST BE THE GOD - BE THE GOD THAT U R AND NO ONE WILL BE ABLE TO STOP U IN LIFE!!!

    WAITING TO HEAR FROM U ALL - I M HERE FOR U ALL - ALWAYS - ALWAYS WAS AS IT IS NOW AND AND AS IT SHALL BE ALWAYS - AND THATS THE TRUTH, THE ONLY TRUTH, THATS WHY!!!

    LOVE YOU ALL AND GET IN TOUCH WITH ME AS MANY AS U CAN AS MANY TIMES AS U WANT WITH ALL U GOT - LOVE, AFFECTION, QUESTIONS, DOUBTS, FEARS, INSULTS AND FIGHTS - ITS ALL GOOD, ITS ALL GOD, ITS ALL ME AND ITS ALRIGHT!!! QUESTION ME, CHALLENGE ME, TAKE ME ON IN UR LIFE - IT WILL ONLY HELP U MORE, THERE IS NO WAY ANYONE IS GOING TO LOSE AT ALL!!!

    LOVE U A LOT!

    LOVE U ALL. LOVE U WITH ALL MY LIFE!!!

    LOVE OF GOD AND GOD OF LOVE,
    THE ONLY ONE,
    KRISHNA
    (KALYUG KA KISHEN – KALKI, THE 10TH INCARNATION OF GOD – LORD VISHNU, THE NEW AND FINAL BUDDHA, ME!!!)
    krish2203@yahoo.com
    http://lord-kalki.blogspot.com/
    (My blog-site, will invite the world to it with a big bang when the time is right, special preview for u for now)
    http://www.hindu-blog.com/2007/06/ten-incarnations-of-lord-vishnu-in.html
    (Posts starting 01Jun09)
    http://www.hindu-blog.com/2007/09/book-on-when-was-lord-ram-born.html
    (Posts starting 18Aug09)

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  83. I dont think carbon dating can be used to calculate the time frame that when ram setu was made or ramayana happened. It will just tell how much stones or whatever is old which were used to made the bridge.even It is said that the Ramayana wrote by Balmiki had 100 crore sutras and current one is having 12000-13000 sutras. The picture taken by nasa , where you can see the bridge is undersea. So this is sure when bridge was made at that time sea was below is current level. and by the way stones used are very light weight which still can be found in southers bharat.

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  84. check this link. It shows migration pattern of human beings .. It says India was populated aroun 50 K years.

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/Human_spreading_over_history.png

    Based on this ..
    - when did each of the Yuga's start ?
    - I see Dashavathara as an Evolution Cycle, which life evolving from Matsyam, Kurman, Varaham to Narasimham..

    Read this
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dashavatara#Similarity_between_Darwinism_and_Dasavatara

    So are we talking about all species ? Where Vanara sena Neanderthals or similar early humans ?

    I personally find discussing all these brings more people together and more open to understanding and liking of Hinduism ....

    My lil one already started asking me how did Rama pickup a fight with Parasurama when they both were incarnations of vishu... etc .. These blogs can skip by saying you will need to go to a different level to understand these .. but you need a stepping stone for every Hindu to reach that level .. that stepping stone is what is currently missing in Hinduism ..

    Aji

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  85. Harshkumar (Harshad) C. DesaiApril 8, 2010 at 9:17 AM

    I also believe that Lord Rama was in Treta Yug. But the recent computer calculated date of January 10, 5114 BC also seems reasonable and it brings more authenticity about existence of Lord Rama; what needs to be done is to do calculations for/about the cyclicity/perpetuality of our religion and come out a certain definite TIME PERIOD OF LORD RAMA'S BIRTH such that it falls in Treta Yug and also satisfies January 10, 5114 BC. This needs to be done & I am sure somebody can do it. Also, if you apply the year lengths as per Patrizia Norelli-Bachelet, even then, Lord Rama's birth just falls within Dwapar Yug & not in Treta Yug. Somebody needs to reconcile this.

    Thanks.

    Harshkumar (Harshad) C. desai. April 07, 2010.

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  86. Perhaps, the answer to the conundrum of 5114 BC and Treta Yug lies in the fact that an astronomical event can occur many times!

    What the Planetarium (software?) inferred was that given the data such an occurrance happened in 5114 BC. Can it tell you when it happened before that? How many times it happened before that?

    - Vyasa (just an adopted moniker;-)

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  87. Haribol!

    I appreciate Sunil posting schedules of events in relation to Dwapara Yuga. Thanks so much.

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  88. Very useful information. Thanks Guys.

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  89. Priya Bandu
    Sampurnya vishwa mai kuchha log nahi chahatey ki Hindu sanshakrit ka astitwa jivit rahey, karan yah hai ki 600 sal musalman aur 200 sal europe ney sashan kiya hum kuchha hindu ki mansikita badal gayi hai hum dasata ki awaj mai bolatey hai aj jarurat hai apaney swabhiman sey sir utha kar bolaney ki ki hamaey pas vishava ki sabasey purani calculated scientific cultured sanskriti hai aj hum bibi chcho makan property key chakar mai apani sanshrit bhul rahe hai.hamarey ram bhi thhey krishna bhi thhey jo hamarey grantho mai hai sub kuchha tha
    jo akraman 800 sal pahale aur 200 sal pahaey huey thhey aj phir ho rahey hai
    hum sub ko mil kar aj apaney desh sanshatrit ko bachana hai
    Yogendra Singh Chauhan

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  90. HELLO MY DEAR FRIENDS... RAM WAS BORN AT THE END OF THE MONTH OF CHAITRA.. WHICH IS NOT ON JANUARY 10th but at the end of MARCH... PLEASE CORRECT YOUR DATE OF RAM's BIRTH. THANKS A LOT... RAMNAWAMI ALWAYS IS AT END OF MARCH WHICH IS CHAITRA MONTH... LORD RAM WAS BORN ARIES according to western astrology because of which he had the capacity/courage to leave all the luxuries of life and go to jungles. If he was born in January he would be CAPRICORN and capricorns don't do that... I HAVE DONE RESEARCH IN ASTROLOGY FOR MORE THAN 15 years now and this is the truth. THANKS ANYWAY.
    SAMPURNA, KATHMANDU

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  91. Guys!
    Don't waste your time posting stupid comments here. Go and do your Sadhana twice a day regularly, Follow Yama and Niyama, bring all to the path of bliss and do service to all. Victory will be yours. And don't forget Asanas!

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  92. Excellent post

    Thanks
    Ranjit Kumar Nalbothu

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  93. So nice of you to share such a rich post.Generation after generations are deeply indebted to Sage Valmiki for blessing us with lovely Sri Ramayana.

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  94. None these can be true, elese total Hindu culture itself is going to be fake.

    For example, if Rama was born around 5000 BCE, then the time difference between Krishna and Rama was not more than 2000 years. If that is the case then what about Yuga's mentioned in our Purana's? Are they wrong?

    I don;t think any one can relate to either Rama or Krishna (Treta or Dwapar yuga) unless we find the eviden from the earth and has been confirmed by corbon dating.

    Don't believe on books, as every one try to write some thing for their self. See the different Ramayana;s for example.

    My comments are not to hurt any one but to make think practically.


    Also I am interested to know the justification/clarification on YUGA years (i.e. Kruta - 32,04,000 years, Treta - 16,08,000 years, Dwapara - 8,16,000 years and Kali - 4,32,000 years). All these 4 yuga;s together as MAHA yuga and we finished around 4 MAHA yuga's (I am not sure here).

    Two points to note:
    1) As per science, ice age comes every 100,000 years and ice age lasts for around 75000 to 80000 years. This means human civilization is only around 20000 to 25000 years. So how is it possible?
    2) How many Maha yuga's have finished so far and relate that to human civilization ( around 1 lack years the actual humans started living).

    Any light on this would be greately appreciated.

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  95. hi
    Lord Ram & sita matha is very good god and sita matha to separate to real life

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  96. jaaaaaaaaaaai sreeeeeeeee raaaaaaammmmmmmmm,,,,jaaaaaaaaaaai sreeeeeeeee rammmmmmm,jaaaaaaaaaaai sreeeeeeeeeeeee rammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm,,i am very thankful to my parents for naming me with such greatest name of lord,,jai sreeeeeeeeeee ram

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  97. Treta Yuga was more than three times that of Kali yuga. So would it be possible that the same (5114 BC) permutation and combination of star positions occurred several lakhs of years back.

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  98. 1. for all: Just because we want to know historical dates, doesn't mean we don't have full faith. Educated minds want to logically figure it all out as a double affirmation.

    2. About carbon dating: I presume it'll tell us how old the stones are but not when the bridge was built!Stones could have been there eons ago!

    3. if the Yuga "age" is right Then "RAM JI and KRISHAN JI" existance in Treta and Duaper yug does not compute!

    4. However Harish Kumar's explanation of Yuga (by Norelli-Bachelet) might offer a solution.

    5. Harish Ji: so what is the length of Kalyug in our years?

    6. I agree with Harshad Ji, someone really needs to figure these dates out.

    Very stimulating discussions. Thank you Abhilash

    p.s.Mr Kalki much I agree with you about the so called false gurus, Can we please keep this forum free of abusive language. I know you are much more articulate than that!

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  99. IF LORD RAM BORN 5000 BC AND BALMIKI WAS FORTUNATE TO BE LIVING IN LORDS' ERA, THEN WHY BALMIKI WROTE RAMAYANA IN VERY REFINED SANSKRIT OF PAURANIC ( 1200 YEAR BEFORE NOW )PERIOD. BECAUSE IN 5000 BC SANSKRIT WAS NOT SO MUCH GRAMMATICALITY CORRECT,I AM NOT CONVINCED THAT .
    RAM AND BALMIKI WERE OF SAME ERA.

    ACTUALLY, THE STORY OF RAM IS FLOATING FOR MANY THOUSAND YEAR, WHEN SIMPLE DEVOTEES CREATED AN IDEA OF MARYADA PURUSHOTTAMA RAM AND THEY STARTED FOLLOWING HIM ALL OVER THE PLANET.

    THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE PERSONS DIFFERS FROM PLACE TO PLACE.IN SOME SOUTH EAST COUNTRIES SITA WAS RAMS AUNT. THE DISTANCE BETWEEN INDIA AND SRILANKA CANNOT BE 1200 KILOMETERS IN ANY PERIOD.

    AS THIS STORY HUMAN CREATION, THERE ARE MANY FAULTS IN IT. BUT, THIS WAS A PERFECT GUIDELINE
    FOR THEM AND WE SHOULD RESPECT THEIR FEELINGS.

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  100. Dear All,

    Read most of the enthusiastic posts.
    Hinduism is the only religion with a magnanimous time scale. I believe this predominantly comes from the Puranas. (When it says Rama ruled 14,000 years we should look at it with some sort of practicality.)
    If you closely see 10 avatars of lord Vishnu, each one represents a state of evolution. (Pause and think for a while!!).
    Mahabharat’s time:
    -Mahabharat has some scientific facts built within. (Whatever Max Muller & all the British missionaries say sadly science does not support any of their childish theories). Here are some,
    - Combination of Solar and Lunar eclips happening in a span of one Paksha (1 Paksha = 15 thithi) (loosely 15 days) observed in a span of 36 years. (once during the war of bharata & other just before the death of Krishna). Along with the combination of Shani in Rohini & Kuja in Jesta etc. as described in Mahabharat. Research reveals that in the past 10,000 years we see this happen just 2 times. 3067 BCE & other was around 2000 BCE. Bharat war time is 3067 BCE.
    - River Saraswati: In the Shalya Parva of Mahabharat, Balarama who is on pilgrimage makes extensive remarks as to where the river saraswati if flowing and where it is dried. Harappan civilization came to an end due to great draught due to drying up of river saraswati around 1700 BCE. Which confirms the logic of not attributing the mahabharat to 2000 BCE. Modern science has confirmed the reason for drying up of river sarasavati (tectonic plate movement). (Indo-French research on this has done great work on this.) (Aryan Invasion/ Migration theory miserably fails here)
    -Lost/ Found city of Dwaraka: the rediscovered city of Dwaraka & ASI excavation of Dwarakdeesh temple has provided ample evidence on the timing of the great city of dwaraka. About 5100 years old. Which brings the time of Krishna to around 3100 BCE.
    -7th Mandala of Rig veda talks about a war (Dasharagni yudda), approximate time cud be 3700 BCE, the King who fought the other 9 kings was Sudasa belonged to Puru Vamsha (or Kuru vamsha or Bharata Vamsha). His purohit was Vasistha.
    Abhimanyu the son of Arjuna was after 31 generations from Sudasa. (Per Mahabharat)
    A Bronze head, rescued in New Delhi, Carbon dating reveals it to be about 3700 BCE (It is referred as “ Vasistha’s Head”) (no proof if it is really molded after Vasistha).
    -Other important factor is division of Veda’s. Credit for this massive exercise is given to Veda Vyasa. (who’s time is also the time of Krishna). He preached the veda’s amongst his 4 disciples. (sumanta, Paila, Jaimini & Vaishampayana).
    Krishna’s death is considered the end of Dwapara, So I think it is still correct to say Kaliyuge, Prathama Pade, Bharata Varshe………

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  101. This date is not correct.According to Sri Bhagavatha purana and other mythological books,Lord Rama was born and lived in Tretha Yuga,which is around 17 lakh years ago.Rama ruled his country 11,000 years.Planetary positions repeats in years.

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  102. Respected freinds, from all the posts above, it has become clear that we do have interest in our traditional scriptures and want to check it scientifically. There is nothing wrong in estimating a date wrongly, we can refine it further. What matters most is the method adopted. There are two aspects: 1. Authenticity of the method used and 2.Authenticity of the popular beliefs. We are not aware, how much is the exaggeration in such dates. There was a book published by the Prajapita Brhmakumari Ishwariya Sansthan titled "kya srshti ka anta najdeek hai?" or like that I don't remember correctly. In that book, the author, tried to take out a common factor from all the exaggerations and tried to prove that the current time is the last quadrant of Kaliyug. Similarly, the period of 5114BC as calulated by the author appears good. But it is to be seen as suggested by many scholarly people on this platform, what is the repeatibility of this confluence of stated planetary postions. May be the same combinations have occurred many times more in the past.

    Without going into the details of the correct chronometry of the Ancient texts, I shall like to add that at least the Hindu rishis thought of such huge periods of time.

    Today let's take the case of scientific chronometry- the science of measuring the date of ancient events. By dating a common man always thinks of 14-C dating. But it has been proven, that 14-C dating cannot be applied beyond 60000 years before present even with most advance accelerated mass spectrometers. For dating events older than this we should have other chronometers. So far we have gone upto 2,00000 years for humans. But the age of the earth is 4.6 billion years. May be atime will come when we may be able to prepone the time of appearnace of Homo Sapiens on this planet. As of now we should not discard or otherwise the events mentioned in the old texts. May be in light of more knowledge, we may be able to justify or reject these texts. It is too early to declare that these are pure myths. I have one example, Aryabhatt gave an age of 10 billion years for the age Solar system during his time based on his calculations. Today we have 4.6 billion for the earth and 17 billion for the Universe after revelations by the Hubble's Telescope. There are two main methods of dating older events, either by radiogenic isotopes or by astronomical calculations. Both have their own limitations posed by our current status of analytical understanding. Point is that Aryabhatt was so close within same order of magnitude. We have to explore how he arrived at this figure hundreds of years ago. Today,s best known scientists shall never discard Aryabhatt's calculation but try to improve upon their own methods. Similarly, the ancients rishis might had their own scientific methods which we are yet to discover. For the time being, let's accept all these views and keep on refining our understanding...

    Vachaspati Pandey (vpnhpc@yahoo.com)

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  103. All this epics puranas are came after ARYANS they came to india after 2000BC only..

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  104. Nice blog for giving different thinking ...

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  105. All of us know the birth and death of Lord krushna. Could any one tell me how and when was Lord Ram's death?

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  106. Dont dive junk Explainations

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  107. Ramayana is an epic. Its only literature which has imaginary characters. Date of birth of Ram is an irrelevant question as Ram was imaginary character.

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  108. Anonymous above me seem to be a troublemaker. How you sure he was imaginary? Anyways, interesting post but Shri Ram existence was much more ancient than that date. The Monkey race was on earth the same time The Lord was, and they were on earth a million years ago, even science say it too. So I go with being a million years ago.

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  109. Its logical that the positions of the planets would repeat themselves over the course of millions/billions of years. It is also logical that an individual with the identical destiny of Lord Ram could/would be born on earth each time such a combination of planetary positions occurs. If one accepts this then Lord Ram may well of been born on 10th January 5114 BC and some date 1.7 million year ago. After all there is nothing new under the sun!!!

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  110. B,V,AudinarayanaMay 15, 2011 at 2:02 PM

    Sir / Madam

    Birth date of Rama is mentioned as 5114 BC, but as per Ramayana, Sri Rama lived in Treta yuga. Working backwards, Treta Yuga is of 12,96,000 years. Hence falls between 21,63,000 BC and 8,67,000 BC. According to NASA, the age of Rama Sethu is 1,750,000 years old and falls in Treta Yuga.

    I would like to bring to your notice that almost all software packages limit the year to four digits, as there is no necessity for the year to exceed four digits. When the allotted space is 4 digits, the computer processor would truncate the bigger figure to 4 digits eliminating the digits from left side. For example, if the date is 17,55,114 BC, it will cut off the first 3 digits 175 and will display only 5114 BC. (This is in some ways similar to the Y2K problem in 1999AD, which required changing digits from 2 to 4 for year.) This may be verified with the USA software company Fogware Publishing about “Planetarium Gold.”

    I have faced such a problem in 1990 when we were processing the civilian officers pay bills. The pay of a particular officer was Rs.11,320. As the number exceeded 9999, the computer eliminated the 1 on the left and printed his pay as Rs. 1,320. We made the correction by manually adding 1 on the left side.

    The Gregorian calendar (Christian Calendar) that we are using presently went through a lot of changes (from Lunar to Solar) and corrections and only in 1582 AD, Pope Gregory XII finalized the present calendar after missing and shifting two months. The Calendar was named after him. The loss of two months can be clearly seen from the names of the months, as September (Septa =7) is 9th month, October (Octa = 8) is10th month, November (Nov = 9) is 11th month, December (Deca =10) is 12th month in the present calendar.

    Most of the astrology software packages follow Zodiac signs for months, prior to 1581AD Gregorian calendar. For Aries (Mar 22 to April 20) as Month 1, Taurus (April 21 to May 21)as 2, Gemini (May 22 to June 21) as 3, Cancer (June 22 to July 23) as 4, Leo (July 24 to Aug 23) as 5, Virgo (Aug 24 to Sept 23) as 6, Libra (Sept 24 to Oct 23) as 7, Scorpio (Oct 24 to Nov 22) as 8, Sagittarius (Nov 23 to Dec 22) as 9, Capricorn (Dec 23 to Jan 20) as 10, Aquarius (Jan 21 to Feb 19) as 11, Pisces (Feb 20 to Mar 21) as Month 12.

    It is mentioned that the date of birth of Sri Rama as 10th January. It was mentioned that the Sun is in Aries (March 22 to April 20). If this is taken into consideration the date will be 1st April 17, 55,114 BC.

    Sri Rama Navami comes in the month of Chaitra of Lunar calendar, which normally falls in March or April of present Christian calendar. The date of Sri Ram Navami in the last few years is as follows. 9th April in 1995, 28th March in 1996,16th April in1997, 16th April in1997, 5th April in 1998, 25th March in1999, 12th April in 2000, 2nd April in 2001, 21st April in 2002, 11th April in 2003, 30th March in 2004, 18th April in 2005, 7th April in 2006, 27th March in 2007. 14th April in 2008 (starting of Solar Calendar and Tamil New year), 3rd April in 2009. It can be observed that Sri Rama Navami was between 25th March and 21st April for the last 15 years. Hence January may not be correct.

    Based on this, the modified dates are as follows.
    Sri Rama Birth Date = 1 April 17,55,114BC,
    Vanavasam starting = 27 March 17,55,089BC,
    War with Khar Dushan = 30 Oct 17,55,077BC,
    Hanuman return from Lanka = 6 Dec 17,55,076BC,
    Ravanas death = 23 Feb 17,55,075BC,
    Sri Rama return to Ayodhya = 24 March 17,55,075BC.

    I request that, if you hold the software, try reverse feeding by giving the date in your book, it should give the correct planetary position. Please try by feeding the date 17,55,114 BC and check the planetary position. This may be possible for you to verify if your software permits you to enter a 7 digit figure for year. I feel that 5114 and 17 in the left hand side may be correct and I doubt the figure 5 in between. You may try 1 to 9 and check the results.

    B.V.Audinarayana
    Email: bandaruva@gmail.com

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  111. Sir B.V.Audinarayana

    Thank you so much for this wonderful write up on the birth date of Sri Ram. Hope this will enlighten many people.

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  112. Sir / Madam

    Birth date of Rama is mentioned as 5114 BC, but as per Ramayana, Sri Rama lived in Treta yuga. Working backwards, Treta Yuga is of 12,96,000 years. Hence falls between 21,63,000 BC and 8,67,000 BC. According to NASA, the age of Rama Sethu is 1,750,000 years old and falls in Treta Yuga.

    I would like to bring to your notice that almost all software packages limit the year to four digits, as there is no necessity for the year to exceed four digits. When the allotted space is 4 digits, the computer processor would truncate the bigger figure to 4 digits eliminating the digits from left side. For example, if the date is 17,55,114 BC, it will cut off the first 3 digits 175 and will display only 5114 BC. (This is in some ways similar to the Y2K problem in 1999AD, which required changing digits from 2 to 4 for year.) This may be verified with the USA software company Fogware Publishing about “Planetarium Gold.”

    I have faced such a problem in 1990 when we were processing the civilian officers pay bills. The pay of a particular officer was Rs.11,320. As the number exceeded 9999, the computer eliminated the 1 on the left and printed his pay as Rs. 1,320. We made the correction by manually adding 1 on the left side.

    The Gregorian calendar (Christian Calendar) that we are using presently went through a lot of changes (from Lunar to Solar) and corrections and only in 1582 AD, Pope Gregory XII finalized the present calendar after missing and shifting two months. The Calendar was named after him. The loss of two months can be clearly seen from the names of the months, as September (Septa =7) is 9th month, October (Octa = 8) is10th month, November (Nov = 9) is 11th month, December (Deca =10) is 12th month in the present calendar.

    Most of the astrology software packages follow Zodiac signs for months, prior to 1581AD Gregorian calendar. For Aries (Mar 22 to April 20) as Month 1, Taurus (April 21 to May 21)as 2, Gemini (May 22 to June 21) as 3, Cancer (June 22 to July 23) as 4, Leo (July 24 to Aug 23) as 5, Virgo (Aug 24 to Sept 23) as 6, Libra (Sept 24 to Oct 23) as 7, Scorpio (Oct 24 to Nov 22) as 8, Sagittarius (Nov 23 to Dec 22) as 9, Capricorn (Dec 23 to Jan 20) as 10, Aquarius (Jan 21 to Feb 19) as 11, Pisces (Feb 20 to Mar 21) as Month 12.

    It is mentioned that the date of birth of Sri Rama as 10th January. It was mentioned that the Sun is in Aries (March 22 to April 20). If this is taken into consideration the date will be 1st April 17, 55,114 BC.

    Sri Rama Navami comes in the month of Chaitra of Lunar calendar, which normally falls in March or April of present Christian calendar. The date of Sri Ram Navami in the last few years is as follows. 9th April in 1995, 28th March in 1996,16th April in1997, 16th April in1997, 5th April in 1998, 25th March in1999, 12th April in 2000, 2nd April in 2001, 21st April in 2002, 11th April in 2003, 30th March in 2004, 18th April in 2005, 7th April in 2006, 27th March in 2007. 14th April in 2008 (starting of Solar Calendar and Tamil New year), 3rd April in 2009. It can be observed that Sri Rama Navami was between 25th March and 21st April for the last 15 years. Hence January may not be correct.

    Based on this, the modified dates are as follows.
    Sri Rama Birth Date = 1 April 17,55,114BC,
    Vanavasam starting = 27 March 17,55,089BC,
    War with Khar Dushan = 30 Oct 17,55,077BC,
    Hanuman return from Lanka = 6 Dec 17,55,076BC,
    Ravanas death = 23 Feb 17,55,075BC,
    Sri Rama return to Ayodhya = 24 March 17,55,075BC.

    I request that, if you hold the software, try reverse feeding by giving the date in your book, it should give the correct planetary position. Please try by feeding the date 17,55,114 BC and check the planetary position. This may be possible for you to verify if your software permits you to enter a 7 digit figure for year. I feel that 5114 and 17 in the left hand side may be correct and I doubt the figure 5 in between. You may try 1 to 9 and check the results.

    B.V.Audinarayana
    Email: bandaruva@gmail.com

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  113. Wow! I liked reading comments. Good work, Abhilash. I would also appreciate people who have posted their views with calculations and scientific data. Few of them are so intelligent and brilliant. I love to have such Indians in our country. I am proud of them.

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  114. Just forget all this for a while... to make it short, talk about the objective of Sanatana Dharma. 'Objective of life - Moksha'. What is Moksha?
    Whatever desire one has in this world...finally will fall under these below three... just understand:

    1. I want to live forever ...no death

    2. I want to live forever with full of joy
    (Sukh) without any troubles, full time happy
    life

    3. I want to live with knowledge i.e. when you
    are in deep sleep there are no pains but you
    don't want this type of living thats why with
    knowledge.

    Now tell me is it possible to achieve these 1,2,3 in this world? No... because this world itself is limited by the below three...

    a. timewise limitation
    b. spacewise limitation
    c. objectwise limitation

    So my conclusion here is You want some thing which is beyond a,b,c and at the same time not available in this world because world is bounded by a,b,c. When it is clear that you ever never get what you want from this world then why the struggle? for what? So how to achieve?

    All vedas talks about only this nothing else...
    who are you, how you are connected to this world.. there is no belief theory, it is described scientifically...in other words even it is mother of science. Just refer to Adi Sankara's books

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  115. to know more about ram and sita and a golden civilization/idology please read videhi a Hindi Novel written by Rajshree Agarwal (Advocate)
    www.scrivd.com/doc/47772300/videhi

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  116. Fascinating subject and thought provoking discussion!

    I, too, do not buy the 5114 birth date for Lord Ram and tend to agree with B.V.Audinarayana. However, it is hard to believe that the scientific programming would overlook the truncation/overflowing number issue. I can understand this sort of oversite in the "information" world but not in the Scientific or financial sector!

    I feel this sort of discussion doesn't take anything away from my faith; instead, every little bit of logic or evidence that confirms any part of the Ramayana and/or Mahabharata strengthens my belief! I am afraid, I am one of logical seeker rather than the "blind faith" one.

    Bholi Dhaliwal

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  117. have u guys ever thought of the sight-st of mistake this so call 5114 thing...who cares...seriously... i mean who wants to know...and the next time u find out when who was born when just keep it yourself...coz my friend a time will come when man will not want to remember even their own BOD...dmmm
    SAB KO
    JAI SIYA RAM

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  118. hi all...read all the debate.it s all complicated and confused..wth due respect to all and Kalkiji i believe and try to follow only one thing in my life.GOD has given me the birth of the supreme creature, of all the creatures he has created ,THAT is HUMAN BEING.my duty is to prove it right by doing my duty towards all around me and not to harm anyone and respect the life i have been blessed with.for me GOD lies with in us.GOD BLESS ALL>>

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  119. I joined the blog today.

    I think its better to Read ( or atlesat listen from Gurus) the original sankrit versions (or Athorized Transalations) before commenting.....

    or

    Just try to learn from Life of Sri Rama rather than investigating on his birth...

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  120. And how do we know to which manvantar and which mahayug of the manvantar his treta yug belonged. Pray throw some light.

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  121. I am proud of my fellow Indians ,who really find time to study our past ,when all above individuals ,who have written blogs must be very good in their present career-God bless you all --I mst be elder to you all. -Regards!!

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  122. Acquaintance of mine ,exceptionally intelligent ,had hard days in life, Can he progress , rule his own life after he attains -39- trs. of age .After all Lord Rama was also human!! --I know this request will not be accepted !! Sorry for inconvenience--Regards!!

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  123. अगर चैत्र मास उनके जन्म के समय जनवरी में होता था और वो लौटे भी जनवरी में थे तो सॉफ्टवेर का गणित बिलकुल ही गलत है क्यूंकि उनके लौटने की खुशी में ही दिवाली मनाई जाती है !जो की कार्तिक अमावस्या को होती है ! मुझे लगता है की ग्रहों की वो स्थिति रिपीट हुई होगी जो सॉफ्टवेर ने पकड़ी है ! उनके जन्म की वास्तविक ग्रह स्थिति और भी पहले की है लेकिन गणित गलत लग गया है !

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  124. wrong !!!! .. if you say it is right then Sr Rama was born in Dwapara Yuga

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  125. I just say "Jai Shri Ram"

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  126. in one of the ur blog u had mentioned

    quote
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    In Hinduism, the universe begins in the Satya Yuga and ends in the Kali Yuga. There are total four Yugas. And the cycle – creation and destruction – is repeated.
    Satya Yuga lasts for 1,728,000. Treta Yuga lasts for 1,296,000. Dwapara Yuga lasts for 864,000 and Kali Yuga for 432,000.
    It is widely believed that Kali Yuga began in 3102 B.C.
    Now there are several people quoting Puranas to indicate that Lord Krishna had predicted an end the Kali Yuga after 5000 years and the beginning of the Golden Era.
    But traditional scriptures do not agree to this as Kali Yuga will last for 432,000 years.

    =====
    unquote

    and in above blog u had mentioned "Lord Ram was born on the noon of January10 in the year 5114 BC. In Hindu calendar, it was the ninth day of Shukla Paksha in Chaitra month. ".

    dont u think this is both the statements are contradictory, as difference between treta/dwapar/kalyug us very short and unbelievable.

    pls clarify otherwise delete the wrong one.

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  127. The calender we follow,the Gregorian calendar(english calender) is just 2011 years old.So there cant be any january 10 BC 5114.
    Sounds fake.!!

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  128. THIS FELLOW SO CALLED KALI (KALI YUG KA KISHEN) IS A PSYCHO CASE. HE CLAIMS TO BE GOD BECUASE HE DID MBA FROM HAVARD! LOL. AGAIN HE IS GOD COZ HE DID VIPASSANA MEDITATION..... SUCH AN IDIOT HE IS!

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  129. Lord Rama is not a myth and we all should note that still there are so many physical evidences to prove that Lord Rama existed as a human being on earth. We have Ram Sethu, Panchvati, and various other places where Lord Rama visisted along with Sita during thier exile.

    As far as dates are concerned it is a matter of debate as long times have passed by and one cannot exactly trace what time all this happened. The yuga concept spanning lakhs of years is digestable but Lord Rama certainly would have come with in the past 200000 yrs..i.e. after date of existence of human beings on this earth.

    Jai Shri Ram.

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  130. This Anonymous & Kalki are really a Coward Guys. This is not the plateform to put others view low and it is right that it is a worthless debate to find the exact birthdate of shri ram. do we stop worshiping him if we found that he is a common man. No I think you most of believe the same.
    ANAND NIGAM

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  131. very interesting read.
    Quite a bit of information and a spite of controversy.

    But to me a born Indian Christian, Hinduism is not a relegion but a noble way of life.

    Christianity and Islam do have alot in common with what we now call Hindutwa.

    To me Hindutwa is all about a universal family (or is it "Vasudaiva Kudumbakam"?)

    Some one mentions Faith - Yes faith is what it is when you turn to God- be it Rama, Jesus or the Allah.

    Beleiving with out wanting to be proved is Faith which all relegions call for.

    The period between Thretayug and the Kaliyug has been too vast that the idea of one man one family has frittered out and see what has come to be. (Hiindutwa , Christianity and Islam have proped themselves up on Stilts where man looks down upon his brothern in terms of personal Faith)

    Some one has mentioned that the facts of Ramayan need further research- I do not know how it is going to help mankind.

    To Me Rama was the epitome of Humanness
    So to believe that he was born- not bother about when - is all that is required

    To me Jesus was the epitome of kindness

    So to belive that he did live just a few years back - to propogate Brotherhood of Man, is all that is needed.

    To me Jihad is all about war against EVIL- the Satanic concept of Kill to eradicate Humanness does not exist. The Khoran is all about love of mankind.

    All we do in Temples, Mosques and Churches are just rituals that we have so created,(hoping to appease Him) without the sheen of what we should understand about one world One man.

    Yes Man has always wanted to know the truth of every thing and that is why we are where we ar now. But it does not mean that Faith should be at the receiving end.

    On his run in the crazy search of power and pelf man has truly left behind his faith in HIM.

    He is one which so ever way you look at Him

    Stelzer

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  132. Lord Rama existed .. and thats the truth.

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  133. Anonymous ji..I appreciate all u said on Lord Rama..am totally for the fact that He was a living person who did so much for his people and an example for humanity that h`e has been considered a living God to have really existed! In 10000 yrs people will start thinking in the same way as we are doing now when they will reflect on Sai Baba or Mother Theresa...then we won't be there to confirm that they really existed!!!!!!

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  134. What I just said...do reflect on it ...am a believer of all but I believe one should feel the reality as well in all...then you can be called a believer!

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  135. Date of Birth calculated is wrong.

    Chaitra month is March to April.
    So it's not possible to have Rama born on 10th January.

    And also in Valmiki's date of Rama's birth is Sun in Aries
    which is so far from 10th January.
    Aries sign is in April month.

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  136. date given by u is wrong as hindus we believe he was born before lackhs(1 lackh=100thousand) of years in treta yuga

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  137. HI,
    IN RAMAYAN SHRI RAM HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT VEDAS(OUR FOUR VED) MANY TIMES,WHILE IN VEDAS THERE IS NO MENTION OF SHRI RAM EVEN ONE TIME,AND OUR OLDEST VEDA RUGVED WAS DATED ROUGHLY 3000YERAS BC THAN HOW COME SHRI RAM WAS OLDER THAN RUGVEDS?IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME.
    THANKS,
    ALPESH

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  138. THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION,BUT I CAN'T FIND THE ANSWER OF MY QUESTION.MY QUESTION IS "WHO ARE THE PARENTS OF KAUSALYA(SREE RAMA'S MOTHER)?

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